TCX 757 accident

Originally posted by Matthew Murray
Hey,

I have no idea how long it would take to fix, but from above it’s said it’ll be in the shop for Two Months. I have a question for once, about the Wingspar, which is a main structural element of the wing. As it is a solid piece I believe, well a one piece unit I mean, if that has been damaged, will that result ina complete replacement of the spar, or will the rotten piece be cut-out and a new piece bolted in place by some means? What structural implications would this have?

Well, looking at it logically, cutting a piece off of the spar wouldn’t be a good idea, it WILL loose some of its structural integrity, regardless how well the new bit is patched on.
In the case of a damaged spar, I think (now I mean think this is not certain) a replacement of the entire assembly is required.

If however, just the wing surface areas have been damaged, then its a matter of taking of the damaged bits and putting on new ones. Much like replacing damaged panels on a car, only a little more complex lol!

Perhaps Wrenchbender can provide some technical views?

Originally posted by Excel
Any idea how long it takes to repair this sort of damage??

I would imagine it’ll be in the shop for a month perhaps. Boeing will have to send out an enigineer. Also, it looks like they’ll need to chop off about 10 feet of wing and replace it.

Might even replace the entire wing, but I think that might be overkill.

Originally posted by wysiwyg
Against my wishes I was forced to sit by a pool in The Gambia for several days in 38 degrees C and consume local beer. In the evenings my roster said I had to attend restaurants, bars and a casino. Am I glad I’m back home…! And, yes, it was work.

Bummer…sounds like you could use a holiday from that horrible working week in Gambia 😉 Maybe a swimming pool back home coupled with our lovely English weather would REALLY relax you after all of this :p

Any idea how long it takes to repair this sort of damage??

Originally posted by wysiwyg
Against my wishes I was forced to sit by a pool in The Gambia for several days in 38 degrees C and consume local beer. In the evenings my roster said I had to attend restaurants, bars and a casino. Am I glad I’m back home…! And, yes, it was work.

I really wonder how a company dares to treat employees like that. You should quit right away 🙂

Against my wishes I was forced to sit by a pool in The Gambia for several days in 38 degrees C and consume local beer. In the evenings my roster said I had to attend restaurants, bars and a casino. Am I glad I’m back home…! And, yes, it was work.

The flightcrew have been exonerated and are back on line. The situation occurred allegedly due to faults with the supplied aerodrome plates (missing pages from source), lack of assistance from Lyon ATC when asked straightforward questions about their own airfield and lack of visual observation by the crew despite the wingtips not being visible from the flightdeck.

The problem is that once the Captain accepts an aircraft from base he is responsible for it until he passes it either back to engineering or another Captain, regardless of what happens. It is a bitter pill but that’s how the system works,

LOL wys u might have seen my dad lol he is down there for 2 weeks! (Namibia and Cape Town)

Originally posted by wysiwyg
I’m only quiet because I’ve been away on a 5 day trip in deepest darkest Africa!

For TCX?? Or another airline?

Originally posted by Matthew Murray
Yeh I hope so too Sandy…now get back to work young man lol

Shouldn’t you be at school? 😉

Originally posted by wysiwyg
I’m only quiet because I’ve been away on a 5 day trip in deepest darkest Africa!

I’ve had a lengthy chat with the skipper and will be able to give more info shortly. For now all I can say is that the aircraft was on the centerline (as proven in photographs I have seen) and operating in accordance with the Jeppesen plate that was in use (although this is where the root of the problem lies).

So it would seem the crew were not at fault.
Lets hope official investigation says so, and doesn’t make them a scapegoat, as what ususaly happens

Wys , it will be interesting to hear from an insider!
I’m glad that you were not involved in this incident.

It would be nice if you could give some info.

I’m only quiet because I’ve been away on a 5 day trip in deepest darkest Africa!

I’ve had a lengthy chat with the skipper and will be able to give more info shortly. For now all I can say is that the aircraft was on the centerline (as proven in photographs I have seen) and operating in accordance with the Jeppesen plate that was in use (although this is where the root of the problem lies).

Wys is being quiet lol!

Kev, most UK airlines use Aerad charts instead of Jeppeson!

TCX 757 accident

I flew on her last aug from Man to Zante, best ever 757 i have been on. The new style 757 interior was so cool and the plane felt all nice and new.

Don’t you think that the Spanish “Follow-me” car system can avoid this kind of incident?

Hi,
I have also flown G-JMAB twice – last Augst – TCX635K/L MAN-SKG-MAN. This aircraft was scheduled to operate the TCX135K/L (MAN-MIR) last Sunday but due to the accident the flight was cancelled. I am travelling the service on FEB 15th & 22nd. Can anybody confirm an aircraft type?

Thanks

Thomas Cook

It’s got to be tough to taxi an aircraft where you have no hope of seeing your own wing. Good marshalling by ground crew is the only way to insure safe operations on the ramp/apron. The pilots will be blamed but other let them down.

At BHX it seems that aircraft are given directions off the runway to a taxiway holding point then cleared to their stand. The controllers don’t actually seem to give directions. The crew have airfield plates (Jeppeson’s) to follow any way and the directions to the stand required should be marked out clearly on the apron.

Regards,

kev35

Wys is awfull quiet… maybe it was him LOL!

naughty boy Wys! LOL

Joking of course!

I thought that ATC was meant to guide the aircraft to its stand. I wonder why they didn’t that time.