December 16, 2012 at 1:42 pm
Hi folks
Anybody have any news on the above based at Wickenby? I’ve had a check on G-info this morning and appears from that there may be some movement with it.
I’m sure the engine has been under rebuild for 7 years so the project has been on the back burner.
On a side note, I had a very enjoyable visit to the guys at the Biggin hill heritage hangar yesterday, which I thoroughly recommend. And Clive Denney – what a top guy!!!!!
Mark
By: CeBro - 14th July 2013 at 12:00
If Sea Furies can be fitted with R3350 engines why not on a Tempest, the CAA
Is another matter though.
Cees
By: suthg - 14th July 2013 at 05:52
Possibly a Tempest II in NZ if another source of funds (Owner) becomes available, or one of Kermit Weeks who has a couple of Napier Sabre engines – one of which I believe was a new crate engine. We can but live in hope any Hawker Tempest gets into the air!!
By: Chad Veich - 13th July 2013 at 05:16
The aircraft in the US will probably fly first…
Most likely but, alas, not with the Bristol up front I’m afaid. While I would certainly enjoy seeing the Ezell airplane perform should I get the opportunity I will definitely be looking forward to the day that G-TEMP or another flies with the original powerplant.
By: ErrolC - 12th July 2013 at 21:41
The most recent Tempest owner tragedy was of course Eric and Kathy Hertz’s deaths in their Beechcraft Baron.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/8490741/Search-for-bodies-of-2degrees-boss-wife
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 12th July 2013 at 17:41
Centaurus 18 from memory -parts are scarce and not much is interchangeable with the Sea Fury unit. Magnetos are a big problem.
Who’d have a radial engine eh? Must be mad
By: David Burke - 12th July 2013 at 17:33
Centaurus 18 from memory -parts are scarce and not much is interchangeable with the Sea Fury unit. Magnetos are a big problem.
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 12th July 2013 at 17:27
Melvyn -I supplied some parts for the project and I have no doubt that if David Martin hadn’t been taken away from us there would be some more interesting types in the air !
I know some of the previous syndicate owners from before David acquired ‘HW’ and fingers crossed life has been kind to them!
Agreed, it would be nice to see one in the air although it would be SO tempting to commentate on it as a radial engined Spitfire, (JOKE).
I presume they had a very early Centaurus and so parts must be tough to find.
Melvyn
By: David Burke - 12th July 2013 at 17:21
Melvyn -I supplied some parts for the project and I have no doubt that if David Martin hadn’t been taken away from us there would be some more interesting types in the air !
I know some of the previous syndicate owners from before David acquired ‘HW’ and fingers crossed life has been kind to them!
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 12th July 2013 at 17:02
Kermit Weeks has owned two now for a long time and thankfully he is in fine form.
Thank heavens for that, but you have to wonder what his insurance premiums are like when you read above!
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th July 2013 at 16:58
I was told she was awaiting a set of Piston Rings to be made. Several atempts by several companies until they were finaly supplied.
Regards
Mark
By: David Burke - 12th July 2013 at 13:04
Regards the type itself. Parts are scarce especially engine wise and there isn’t a perceived sale value. They are not the known commodity that a Sea Fury is and don’t have a massive public perception that a Hurricane or Spitfire has. So much as I would love to see a MK.II fly in the U.K -it will take someone with large pockets who doesn’t necessarily want his or her money back .
By: David Burke - 12th July 2013 at 12:57
That’s a bit of a generalisation ! Doug Arnold initially recovered the aircraft from India. He died from natural causes . Nick Grace and Chris Horsley set up to restore a couple but sadly Nick died in the car crash. He owned other aircraft at the same time .
The David Martin machine was sold on after his murder -the murder itself was completely Tempest unrelated. The next owner Phillipe Dennis died from natural causes in his mid 50’s from memory -sadly not unusual and her latest owner died in a vintage aircraft crash. It should be pointed out that this all happened in the space of twenty plus years.
Kermit Weeks has owned two now for a long time and thankfully he is in fine form. I don’t see that the owners of Tempests have been any less unfortunate than people who have met their premature end flying the likes of Harvards and Spitfires!
By: Wyvernfan - 12th July 2013 at 11:24
Its also astonishing the amount of bad luck and in some cases personal tragedy that has befell some of those Tempest projects.
Rob
By: Mike J - 12th July 2013 at 11:01
One of the US ones might. The other one is not destined for such a bright future I fear.
By: TempestV - 12th July 2013 at 10:43
It never ceases to amaze me that six rebuildable projects of this significant type have been in circulation amongst collectors for three decades now, and yet not a single one has flown. If they had been Spitfires………….
I agree.
I love the Tempest II. Its a big Hawker fighter, what more can you ask for! 😀
The aircraft in the US will probably fly first, so let’s hope that this generates some impetus for others to do so too.
By: Mike J - 12th July 2013 at 09:22
It never ceases to amaze me that six rebuildable projects of this significant type have been in circulation amongst collectors for three decades now, and yet not a single one has flown. If they had been Spitfires………….
By: suthg - 12th July 2013 at 07:31
Try this different link from the same website, – has the Summary of the Survivors, Ser Nos and Civi code
http://www.hawkertempest.se/Summary.htm
Mark …. Serial no. ….. Civilian (Indian) … Owner/Status
II ……… LA607 ……… N607LA ………….. Kermit Weeks, Tamiami, FL USA/Displayed at Florida Air Museum at Sun ‘n Fun
II ……… MW376 …….. G-BSHW (HA564) . Sold to a “New Zealand based client”/Restoration to fly
II ……… MW401 …….. G-PEST (HA604) .. Tempest Two Ltd/Stored
II………. MW404 …….. (HA557) …………. Chris Miller, TX USA/ Restoration to fly
II………. MW758 …….. (HA580) …………. Tempest Two Ltd/Stored
II ……… MW763 …….. G-TEMT (HA586) .. Tempest Two Ltd/Restoration to fly
II ……… MW810 …….. (HA591) ………….. Nelson Ezell, TX USA/Restoration to fly
II ……… MW848 …….. (HA623) ………….. IAF Museum, Pallan AB, New Dehli
II ……… PR536 ………. (HA457) …………. RAF Museum, Hendon
V ……… EJ693 ……….. N7027E ………….. Kermit Weeks, Tamiami, FL USA/Under restoration at PPS
TT.5 …. NV778 …………………………….. RAF Museum, Hendon
I shuffled the spaces around a bit to try and get some semblance of order…
Cheers!
By: 1batfastard - 11th July 2013 at 22:22
Hi All,
Just thought you may be interested in this link for Tempest fans as it is updated or was updated regularly. 😉 http://http://www.hawkertempest.se/Survivors.htm
Geoff.:D
By: Mike J - 11th July 2013 at 14:17
Quite possible David. After all, they have to spend all that ‘Foreign Aid’ money that we keep sending them somewhere!
By: David Burke - 11th July 2013 at 14:05
I can see the Indian Air Force Historic Flight being a prime interest in it.