TFC Hurricane IV

I don’t know if the P39 or the Polikarpov PO 2 have flown since last Legends,does anyone know ,Ta.

The P-39 has NOT flown since Legends. One of the guys at the recent open evening told me that they are currently putting together the documentation for the CAA…..

As far as I’m aware the Polikarpov is up for sale. Not sure where I heard that though…. probably one of the mags.

Hi Couple of pics from last month

Regards
John P

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If you mean the I-15bis, that isn’t part of TFC, but is Russian-owned and has remained at Duxford since Legends

Yes sorry,still eating brekkies ,brain not switched in yet 😀 Anyway have either of them flown since Legends?

I don’t know if the P39 or the Polikarpov PO 2 have flown since last Legends,does anyone know ,Ta.

By the way

…*not a P-36, whatever our Amerrican friends think, but a true Hawk 75. 🙂

Next airshow I think it is definately worth us meeting up down the John Barleycorn in Duxford for a few pints. Think the conversation could be interesting.

Flat back trailer with TFC engineers on what an awful thought, they are bad enough in the hangar, we try to keep them there but they keep escaping.

Well done everyone, we enjoyed what you got finished and next year we will enjoy what you didnt.

Hear hear well said,not the first a/c to go u/s and certainly not the last,roll on next legends.

At the end of the day the hurricane will soon be flying and we can all enjoy it.

As had been said the Hurricane flew on Friday but did have a few hiccups. I know for a fact the TFC engineers worked nearly two days overtime over the Legends period. Friday night and Saturday they were there gone 21.30, just hoping that they could get the Hurricane ready so everyone could see it fly. Ok it sat in the hangar, but lets face it you all saw it and the comments that it will be seen outside soon are true.

Lets not knock these engineers who have sweated and bleed to get the aircraft ready. They did a great job and even upto the last minutes on Sunday they were still willing to try and get the plane ready. We should be thankful to such devotion, so we can sit back and watch them fly.

Surely everyone here has been around aircraft enough and to enough airshows to know that sometimes they go unserviceable. There are too many reports in magazines & on the AAIB website where it is reported that the pilot saw excess oil or something & “Thought it would be alright for one more flight” then promptly bent it. Yes, I’ve been disappointed before by non-appearances, but I’d rather wait than have the sickening sight of something going wrong in the air.

Ah, that’s better….

I’m sorry, I’ve just read Warbirduks post. I must have missed it. As the aircraft was unsafe to be ground handled then yes, of course, it should stay exactly where it is. I would expect no different. They clearly wanted to get it out on the line as much as we wanted them to.
It would have been nice if it had been explained by the commentator at the time though, rather than the aeroplane being ignored. Never mind, there’s always next time.

I am surprised though, that there is no method of locking the undercarriage in the down position. But as Britains first retractable undercarriage fighter I suppose the problem hadn’t been thought of at that stage.

Willow

Locking pins?? this is a WW2 aircraft not an F16!

Enough said!!

I know another one……

MARRIAGE !!! ( or an impending one)

Willow

I’m told thay being kept in the dark is the best cure for aviation.

Originally posted by bentwingbomber
Ahh i see you wanted to photograph it

That makes all the difference

Yes, of course it does. That’s one of the main reasons why I went!

I imagine that DOUGHNUT and a few others, tempted by what had been said and shown here, also went for the same reason.

As has been said, there are such things as locking pins. Why not tow it out onto the flightline, leave it alone, and let the poor engineers enjoy the show like everyone else? They’ve been working hard enough to get everything else working. It could have waited 48hrs.

It should have had pride of place, not been kept in the dark.

Willow

Nice to hear someone’s smelt the coffee at last!;)

why could it not be left in an unfixed condition and positioned outside for everybody to photograph

Ahh i see you wanted to photograph it

That makes all the difference

Ah well chaps looks like Doughnut is an expert on Hurricanes now I agree the guys at TFC and other collections like OFMC etc just can’t do much right can they?

I wondr if AL has found his answer yet don’t worry Alexis the answer is out there ask Skully and Moulder:D 😀 😀 😀

Originally posted by warbirdUK
Just a quickie,

Iwould just ask that the folks out there who get worked up when they can’t see the aircraft that they want to see flying spare a thought to the ground crews that most of the time are there looking after these aircraft for NO wages & sometimes even having to pay their own expenses to get there to do it, mostly the only thing they get from an Airshow is the satisfaction that they got ‘their’ aircraft to the field so people could see it. I have been one of the lucky ones who have been paid to be there in the past but I take my hat off to the volunteers who work to give YOU the show so that some of you complain about, without them, most of the time there would be no show!

Very well said Warbird UK, the volunteer element often gets overlooked. These guys should receive a lot more paise for their efforts than they currently get.

Just a quickie,

Looks more like some sort of a coolant leak to me Damien. I think that port behind the exhaust is where the glycol header tank vents

This is probably caused by an overfill of the cooling system & not having enough expansion space for the coolant once it gets hot so the pressure relief valve (a bit like you car radiator cap) will allow some liquid to escape until there is a large enough air space.
Again about the Hurricane, I would also like to add that If you are not getting green lights showing on the panel the last thing you want to do is move the aeroplane around on the ground, You jack it up off the wheels to give it some stability & find the problem, even pushing the aircraft with a possible U/C lock problem can have horrific results if a leg starts to fold, do you really want people to take that risk just so you can get some pictures of it outside? having had a Spitfire land & the wheels walk very slowly back up into the wheel wells during the roll out causing thousands of pounds worth of damage, trust me, you take no chances! But, I see all was not lost as where else could you have got the great pictures that I have seen posted here of a Hurricane being worked on? Remember, for every negative there is a positive, you just have to find it!
Iwould just ask that the folks out there who get worked up when they can’t see the aircraft that they want to see flying spare a thought to the ground crews that most of the time are there looking after these aircraft for NO wages & sometimes even having to pay their own expenses to get there to do it, mostly the only thing they get from an Airshow is the satisfaction that they got ‘their’ aircraft to the field so people could see it. I have been one of the lucky ones who have been paid to be there in the past but I take my hat off to the volunteers who work to give YOU the show so that some of you complain about, without them, most of the time there would be no show!
(Right, I’m off me soap box!)
Cheers for now

Locking pins?? this is a WW2 aircraft not an F16!

Originally posted by DOUGHNUT
why could it not be left in an unfixed condition and positioned outside for everybody to photograph, not just the choosen few with media passes and unlimited access to Duxford Airfield. As for the danger of the undercarrige collasping surely there are such things as locking pins?

DOUGHNUT

Last time I went to Duxford I didn’t need a media pass to get into the hangers, from the photographs I have seen here, and those that friends have shown me it was possible to get a lot closer to the Hurricane in the hanger than it would have been outside on the flightline. Those who were there also had the chance to see it with some of the panels removed so as to see the high standards of workmanship that have gone into this aircraft. Maybe it should have stayed at Hawker Restorations over the weekend then nobody would have known anything about it and we woud all have been happy.
I bet the guys at TFC are thinking they can’t win with some people, as a huge amount of effort has gone into getting all the aircraft together for the show.