The Bader Enigma (The End)

I think this thread has run its course, and see no reason to go over old, old ground.

The end

Bruce

I think your well documented dislike for Williams got in the way of your judgment this time.

I’m got getting into the same old debate here, it’s been done to death in the past, however I refute the accusation that I dislike Mr Williams, I pity him, not dislike.

Can someone explain to me what the hell this is all about. But don’t bother to do so until tomorrow, because I’m going to bed now!

NOOOOO!! Don’t even go there!

Can someone explain to me what the hell this is all about. But don’t bother to do so until tomorrow, because I’m going to bed now!

Its a bit like Cluedo isn’t it

I bet Colonel Mustard did it

EN830

Sorry I mucked up your screen name!

Not so Fast EN380

EN380 – Your post on this tired subject said, in effect, that Williams stories had been “rebuffed . . . . once and for all.”

What I read was the following:

1. The lady in question remembered a double amputee being in the Hotel Stork at the relevant time.

2. The amputee called himself Douglas Bader or was called Douglas Bader but at least one person (a black marketer) said he didn’t believe it was Bader.

3. The amputee did not register at the hotel as Bader.

4. The lady reiterated others called him Bader.

5. The amputee did not have uniforms in his room but there were uniforms nearby.

The information from the lady tends to support not refute William’s theory. There was a double amputee at the Stork at the relevant time and some people called him Bader (but others FELT he was not Bader). Whoever it was did not sign the guest register as Bader.

I think your well documented dislike for Williams got in the way of your judgment this time.

its all out now

he was home to test fly the Nazi UFO that he stole which was later used to get away from Dallas in 1963 when he used a hollowed out leg to hide a rifle used to shoot JFK from the grassy knoll. This was confirmed when he came back to earth for pipe tobacco in another UFO that landed at a USAF base in the UK in the late 80’s…….

there are two men in white coats at the door, I’ll be leaving now……

what a bunch of pap, Hess in the Sunderland holds some water, but this……

There is plenty of this in the archives. Please lets not open yet another discussion on the veracity (or otherwise) of Mr Williams claims.

Bruce (Moderator)

This thread should have a warning at the top;-

MAY CONTAIN NUTS.:rolleyes:

Chiropodist

Wow this chap Keneth got about, heres an extract of the time he helped with another foot/leg type issue and I quote.

As he walked up the steps and got closer to me I noticed that he was limping slightly. I didn’t give it a second thought as I was taking note of his funny little short double breasted overcoat, blocked bowler hat and walking stick and of course, the huge fat cigar.

He seemed to deliberately catch my eye and veered off his set course to the restaurant, and was without doubt heading straight toward me. “My God!” I thought “What have I done and what is he going to say to me, and why me?”

Suddenly there we were, face to face and I could feel the adrenalin pumping madly through my arteries. He looked at me and smiled, then put his hand on my shoulder for support, leaned forward and said very quietly to me. “Son, I’ve got a nail in my shoe and it’s giving me hell, do you think you can do something about it?”

Victor Meldew

Do you think Victor Meldrew is masquerading as this chap Keneth? “I doooont believe it:rolleyes:

The end?

I doubt it – the story provided to debunk the whole thing has as many holes as the initial story.

I see no more reason to believe that as to believe Ken.

Bruce

to me it sounds like one of two possibilities.

in the first
Kenneth Williams, a Royal Navy medic in 1942 is asked to assist someone without legs who is masquerading themselves as Bader (perhaps capitalising upon Baders fame) while staying at the Stork Hotel in Liverpool.

Although applying logic after the facts, the intoduction of this single element into the story, of impersonation, destroys the mystery and conspiracy element completely.

in the second it is all a fabrication for whatever purpose, potentially moneymaking.

The fact within this twisted tale is that Bader was secure within Colditz until the spring of 1945. The Germans would not have let one of their ultra troublemaking POWs out for a bit of weekend leave – especially not back to England.

Chris

And yet, on the very day this was posted, 7,000 Elvises descended on a small town in New South Wales.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7185597.stm

A simple coincidence?

Or, as some of us believe, something more?

One of them was the legendary legless Elvis impersonator Rockin’ Dougie B. 😀

And yet, on the very day this was posted, 7,000 Elvises descended on a small town in New South Wales.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7185597.stm

A simple coincidence?

Or, as some of us believe, something more?

Dear God…just when you thought it was safe to get back in the water ! Only read a bit of it but its the same old **** as before. And to think i at one time gave him the benefit of the doubt!

Interesting though his analogy on Titanic running out of steam…i always thought she had too much steam up for her own good when she went down…wasn’t she going too quick against her Captain’s wishes ?

What a load of horlicks !

Take’s your breath away, doesn’t it.
FWIW the local press in Liverpool have sniffed round this one and decided it’s not worth touching with a ten-foot pole. It’s all too easy to be bounced into giving publicity, and therefore some implied credence, to a tall story that comes with a challenge to prove it wrong.
For the record, then, Adolf Hitler did not visit Liverpool and the local cotton merchant James Maybrick was not Jack the Ripper. But proving these various negatives is well-nigh impossible, alas.
The fact that the Bader yarn comes with some unpleasant and dogmatic language on the part of its chief perpetrator just makes it worse.

About time too. winter is boring.

Nice to see Web pilot’s been keeping himself busy….