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The future ten years from now, extinct types resurfacing?

Hi all,

Now that the past ten years has seen a number of then extinct or rare aircraft appearing (Mig 3, Me262, Oscars etc) what wil the future bring.

Can we expect so see a Westland Whirlwind and Hawker Typhoon emerging from a workshop or an airworthy Mk I Spitfire, Miles M20?

What are your views or hopes? What is possible

Cheers

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By: chicken chaser - 26th December 2005 at 23:50

sorry,had a bottle of xmas cheer.wapiti

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By: HP57 - 23rd December 2005 at 17:55

How can be bring back a Wapati or Sterling back from extinction as we can’t even spell their names right. :p

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By: chicken chaser - 22nd December 2005 at 21:08

a wapati,because my grandad told me stories of him flying them in iraq and afganistan.

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By: Airofoil - 22nd December 2005 at 20:28

Me Gigant glider

I would like to see a Gigant glider with a Heinkel Zwilling to tow it.The Heinkel should be no probs just graft two of those spanish Casa’s together!

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By: TempestV - 6th December 2005 at 07:37

Likely additions in 10 years time.

If we are to see a new shape in the skys again, the rarer project will already have been going for a while already.

So I would suggest that we may see:

Vulcan
Beaufighter
Mosquito
Tempest II

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By: Whitleyfreak - 6th December 2005 at 07:03

Steve,

How about a static Whitley and Albemarle!?! A Stirling would also be nice.

Todd 🙂

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By: steve_p - 6th December 2005 at 01:23

Anyone for a static Albermarle?

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By: 91Regal - 5th December 2005 at 22:26

More realistically, there’s a whole era between 1923 to 1935 to be recreated – I would have thought that a flyable replica Gamecock, Siskin or Wallace are closer targets than some of those mentioned ( given ‘modern’ lookalike engines, of course). If I really went out on a limb, how about a B-P Sidestrand? Imagine all these at Old Warden.

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By: DocStirling - 5th December 2005 at 18:57

Vulcan :diablo:

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By: dhfan - 5th December 2005 at 17:29

Not being an expert on Fairey Fireflies, and too idle to go to another room to look them up, aren’t the ARCo ones MkIs?

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By: David Burke - 5th December 2005 at 15:59

XN923 – Manchester Shackleton under cover since 1982! Be nice to see a MR3/3 undercover through!

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By: XN923 - 5th December 2005 at 14:29

In looking for extinct (flying) types with mass appeal, can we have a Tempest MkV please, and a Firefly Mk1 would be nice. My quirkier inclination says Bristol Brigand, Blackburn Firebrand, Westland Wyvern… The need for thunder and appreciation for the art of the ‘controlled crash’ says Supermarine Scimitar, and please can we have a Shackleton under cover before they all rot away?

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By: Ray Jade - 5th December 2005 at 13:38

If only the money could be found, it would be a fantastic gap filler in the Fairey aircraft collection held by the museum

My grandfather-in-law was a metal-basher for Fairy’s – gap filler is very much needed!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 5th December 2005 at 01:39

I think we’re headed into uncharted territory as regards warbirds in the near future, what with insurance rates and operating costs going through the roof, purchase prices for some types getting higher and higher…there are many incredibly exciting things being done, as with all the new build types of planes that we simply have’nt had before and some rare types getting a bit more plentiful (Zeros come to mind), but I think the fast movers and the heavy and medium bombers are either going to be grounded or wind up in the hands of the filthy rich to keep them flying. The big money collectors are the ones who are going to be able to afford big stables of warbirds and take them to shows for us to see, because unfortunately the operating costs for a P-51 or a B-25 or whatever is going to, if it has’nt already, start to escalate past the level where any one individual can afford to pay it anymore, especially if that individual has more than one ‘fast mover’ or bomber in his/her stable of planes. I think there will be a shift towards folks who want an affordable warbird moving towards owning something ‘cheaper’ like a T-6, TBM, L-bird, BT or something like that (and by cheaper I mean ‘less glamorous’ than the Mustangs and Corsairs and Forts and B-25’s….let’s face it, the purchase price for the T-6 is a LOT less than it is for a P-51 and it uses less fuel and costs less to insure), so we will see some collectors start to pare down their collections to bare minimums to keep them in the warbird game AND save money in this high fuel price/high insurance cost time. But I think there is still a lot to look forward to as the 262’s, Oscars, FW 190’s and other ‘unseen in 50 years’ types take to the skies (and I will be the FIRST one to take a 1000 mile drive to an airshow here in the states that features a flying Focke Wulf!) Restoration quality these days is amazing and the planes just get better and better, and subsequently they will tend to continue on in flying condition longer and longer because they are now capable of doing so.
All I know is I don’t want to be in this world any longer when the last Flying Corsair is grounded. That’ll be the day I die…..any other opinions?

Mark

I’ll second that……….. 😀

FLY NAVY 😎

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By: XL391 - 5th December 2005 at 01:36

Love to see an airworthy Mossie… 🙂

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By: hawkdriver05 - 5th December 2005 at 01:27

Wouldn’t mind seeing a Defiant or Battle……….how bout an Bloch 152?

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By: Moggy C - 5th December 2005 at 00:31

That timetable should encompass the TFC Beaufighter.

Anyone want to place any bets on whether we are on Blenheim number three, four or five by then?

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By: J Boyle - 4th December 2005 at 23:08

I agree that we’re in for some exciting times with planes (FW-190, etc) flying for the first time in more than half a century.
However…
A lot planes mentioned above are going to remain dreams….it would cost a huge sum to build an airworthy Whitney or Whirlwind, HP42, or Miles……and who’s going to put up the money for a plane without the combat history, glamour etc. of the Spitfire, Corsair, etc. etc.?
If I were in the position to be a patron of historic UK aircraft, I think I’d spend my money on a Mosquito first….then a Sterling.
And having been working on a historic rebuild project of an extinct type for the past year, let me assure you there is a lot more to than meets the eye. Even a knowledgeable FlyPast reader /aviation would be amazed at the amount of detail work, cost and time required for resurrecting an extinct type. Unless you’ve done it before or have a background in aircraft design/building/maintenance, you’d be amazed at what has to go into building a flyable plane.
And too add another item into the fuel/insurance/regulations list of woes…the film industry…a long time sponsor of aircraft rebuilds no longer needs the real items…thanks to ever-improving computer graphics.

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By: mike currill - 4th December 2005 at 06:36

What about a static Barracuda? The FAA Museum have done a fantastic job on the Albacore. Could they repeat it with a Barra?

Best wishes
Steve P

Not the best looking plane in the world but one I’d like to see. Has anyone worked out where all the Merlin engines are going appear from? are Rolls Royce going to build a new batch? 🙂 because I notive a distinct Merlin trend amog the things people have listed.

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By: Seaking93 - 3rd December 2005 at 23:12

The finance for the Albacore came from several sources and the fuselage was built at Lands End airfield by Viv Bellamy, after an attempt to build the wings by the museums society of friends volunteers was abandoned they were built at Viv Bellamys then new facility in Hampshire. Just to add to the story Viv then took on the rebuild of the Barracuda nose section, this was then delivered back to the museum and work started on the centre section until the money ran out, maybe one day work will start again on the project.

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