February 2, 2011 at 1:17 am
I am sure I will get shot down over the title but to my best knowledge this is the last surviving Hurricane replica made for the 1969 Battle of Britain film. Would be an interesting thread to discover any other surviving aircraft made for the film. Its not the usual replica and quite close to the original build. I am currently restoring it to show alongside the Spitfire and thought a few pictures might be of interest.
By: Graham Adlam - 1st March 2011 at 15:49
Mine isnt but soon will be once the body work is complete 🙂
By: Sky High - 1st March 2011 at 15:39
Not sure – BAPC 63 and 64 were used in the film. There is also a forshortened full size model which was used for perspective work.
By: SADSACK - 1st March 2011 at 15:28
re;
were the film a/c fitted out inside?
By: Sky High - 1st March 2011 at 15:20
In think this is the full list of exhibits at Hawkinge.
List of Aircraft Exhibits
Displayed I.D. Aircraft Type Real Identity Condition Status
‘G-AAAH’ de Havilland DH.60G Moth ? Complete Displayed
‘D-3-340′ DFS Grunau Baby 2 glider ? Complete Displayed
– Fieseler Fi 103 ‘V-1′ BAPC.36 FSM Displayed
’425/17′ Fokker Dr.I BAPC.133 FSM Displayed
‘N2532′ Hawker Hurricane – FSM Displayed
‘P2921′ Hawker Hurricane – FSM Displayed
‘P3059′ Hawker Hurricane BAPC.64 FSM Displayed
‘P3208/SD-T’ Hawker Hurricane BAPC.63 FSM Displayed
‘P3679′ Hawker Hurricane – FSM Displayed
– Messerschmitt Bf 109E BAPC.66 FSM Displayed
– Messerschmitt Bf 109E BAPC.67 FSM Displayed
– Messerschmitt Bf 109E BAPC.74 FSM Displayed
‘N7033′ North American Harvard IIB ? Complete Displayed
‘K5054′ Supermarine Spitfire prototype ? Reproduction Displayed
‘N3289′ Supermarine Spitfire BAPC.65 FSM Displayed
‘N3313′ Supermarine Spitfire BAPC.69 FSM Displayed
‘X4255′ Supermarine Spitfire Fuselage FSM Displayed
‘X4321′ Supermarine Spitfire Fuselage FSM Displayed
‘MK356′ Supermarine Spitfire IX – FSM Displayed
FSM = Full Scale Model.
By: Graham Adlam - 1st March 2011 at 14:56
Wings
Having peeled the fibreglass off the wings they were completely shot, totally rotten. Using the original frame as a template have now made one with wood, used alloy on the leading edge. Managed to save the ailerons not fixed yet that’s why they resemble flaps at the moment.
As most are aware I am not known for my skills as an aircraft builder and so am quite pleased with the result. They are made in two sections and can be lifted and attached easily by two people. 🙂
By: TempestV - 12th February 2011 at 19:55
Is it in the Museum at Manston do you know??
Hi Blue Max,
When i last visited the museum in the mid 2000’s the fuselage frame was in the museum compound, outside under a tarp. I haven’t seen it for over 6 years though.
By: The Blue Max - 11th February 2011 at 20:38
Hi Blue Max,
There was a BE2 replica there, which I believe is now in Kent (Manston, I think). I don’t recall its previous history, before North Weald though, sorry.
Is it in the Museum at Manston do you know??
By: TempestV - 11th February 2011 at 19:48
Did you have the “Wings” BE2 and Albatros there as well at that time??
Hi Blue Max,
There was a BE2 replica there, which I believe is now in Kent (Manston, I think). I don’t recall its previous history, before North Weald though, sorry.
By: TwinOtter23 - 11th February 2011 at 17:23
A picture of the Hurricane replica mentioned in post #5 can be found in a new album that has been added to the Gallery on the Newark website – entitled “Collecting Aeroplanes”
By: The Blue Max - 3rd February 2011 at 13:48
The Jet Age example BAPC72 is the very same, though I seem to recall when the museum rescued it, we found it in external storage, the wings having been driven over by a fire engine 🙁
As Graham says, the wings are of a far inferior build quality which is a shame as the fuselage is much closer to the original than you’d expect.
Oh and yes in reply to your question Graham, it did have a few different motors in it’s time – mini starter motor, electric garage door motor..all set to turn very slowly as we didn’t really employ barriers or walkways at the Jet Age back then!
The prop blades were modified modern(ish) Dowty jobs, fashioned by a very skilled chap by the name of Martin Clarke (ex Dowty) who spent an age profiling them to as close to the original as possible. They look just the job!
Im glad it found a good home, it looked very neglected when i saw it!
By: SADSACK - 3rd February 2011 at 10:20
re;
so how many of these are BOB film examples?
By: Die_Noctuque - 2nd February 2011 at 20:24
There used to be one in the hangar at Bournmouth where the Vampire’s and Venom’s were kept, what happened to that one??
The Jet Age example BAPC72 is the very same, though I seem to recall when the museum rescued it, we found it in external storage, the wings having been driven over by a fire engine 🙁
As Graham says, the wings are of a far inferior build quality which is a shame as the fuselage is much closer to the original than you’d expect.
Oh and yes in reply to your question Graham, it did have a few different motors in it’s time – mini starter motor, electric garage door motor..all set to turn very slowly as we didn’t really employ barriers or walkways at the Jet Age back then!
The prop blades were modified modern(ish) Dowty jobs, fashioned by a very skilled chap by the name of Martin Clarke (ex Dowty) who spent an age profiling them to as close to the original as possible. They look just the job!
By: Peter - 2nd February 2011 at 20:15
Thanks graham would be impressive..
By: trumper - 2nd February 2011 at 20:08
🙂 I think this is the Hurricane at Allens Green
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=79262&d=1115223905
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=16487&highlight=Hurricane+allens+green
By: The Blue Max - 2nd February 2011 at 19:36
We had one in the Bill Miles collection at North Weald in the late 70’s/early 80’s. I don’t know where this one ended up when the collection was dispersed?
There was also a BoB film hurricane displayed outside a pub at Allen’s Green Hertfordshire in the 70’s. Could this be one and the same?
Indeed, they were very convincing visual replicas I recall.
Did you have the “Wings” BE2 and Albatros there as well at that time??
By: Graham Adlam - 2nd February 2011 at 18:42
Its something I am giving careful thought although its adds considerably to the transport costs as it can no longer be towed by a car and has to go on a lorry.
In addition the cost is quite scary although having done it once it wont be so hit and miss second time around. The radiator wont be such an issue with the Hurricane although im not sure if the frame would take it.
It was a relatively straightforward task to beef up the Spitfire frame, I would not want to ruin the integrity of the Hurricanes current airframe.
Its a much more difficult prospect if not impossible to strengthen without starting from scratch. The internal frame uses tubes roughly have the size of the original so the Jury is still out.
By: Peter - 2nd February 2011 at 18:21
Graham, it has to be asked.. are you going to power this one up as well?
By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd February 2011 at 18:02
Oh, I just filter your posts out, Mark….!!
Mostly, I am just trying to beat you to post a photo, anyhow.
I’d be here all day reading your scribblings otherwise. :diablo:
By: Mark12 - 2nd February 2011 at 17:58
Are there not two at Hawkinge, as well?
Here:
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/museums/kent-battle-of-britain-museum.htm
(Leave your camera at home, though.)
Keep up Andy..post 3 🙂
By: TempestV - 2nd February 2011 at 17:46
We had one in the Bill Miles collection at North Weald in the late 70’s/early 80’s. I don’t know where this one ended up when the collection was dispersed?
There was also a BoB film hurricane displayed outside a pub at Allen’s Green Hertfordshire in the 70’s. Could this be one and the same?
Indeed, they were very convincing visual replicas I recall.