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By: Snoopy7422 - 15th June 2012 at 20:34

It’s all c—………….

The nickname for the ship seems appropriate…KOK!.

I spotted that too, but felt too embarassed to point it out, lol…. Yes, it’s the ideal name…..:p

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By: kev35 - 15th June 2012 at 19:29

The wonderful thing about TIGHAR’s……..

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By: PanzerJohn - 15th June 2012 at 18:04

The nickname for the ship seems appropriate…KOK!.

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By: RMR - 15th June 2012 at 18:01

Maybe they will come back with a picture of a Great Pacific Freckled Turtle:diablo::diablo::diablo::diablo:

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By: Snoopy7422 - 15th June 2012 at 16:11

Yaaaaaaawwwnnnn….

http://ukga.com/news/view?contentId=26619

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By: knifeedgeturn - 3rd June 2012 at 12:34

Is that metres or yards mr Dorfmann?

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By: RPM, FF, TGT... - 3rd June 2012 at 11:34

The latest from Tighar….

From the TIGHAR Symposium, underway in the US of A, we learn that Jeff Glickman, the photographic expert that TIGHAR has employed, has said that the “Nessie” object which does indeed look like a floating aircraft “Mainwheel” is actually 36 inches in diameter. Which as you have guessed it is said to be the outer diameter of the tyres on the Electra 10E….. simple…..

The “Mainwheel” codenamed “Nessie” (as said to be) from the enhanced photograph of an October 1937 snap taken by Colonial Officer Cadet Eric Bevington does indeed look like a “round object’, or a “wheel”. The Hub centre cannot be seen, in the enhanced picture.

Now, I can’t get my head around how an indeterminate photo snap, taken from a boat offshore of Gardner Island (now Nikumaroro) which was at an unmeasured distance from the “Nessie” object and at an unknown distance from other fixed objects can be accurately measured at “36” inches in diameter.

I could understand it if Trigonometry is used here but it does not seem possible to be “mathematically” possible to produce an accuracy of “36 inches”: from what was basically a “tourism snap” taken from a boat on the sea.

Years ago (like 50+) I did venture into Calculus but I confess it was a complete mystery. Sorry about that……

How did I survive amongst all the brains available ? Even today, when apparently there is accuracy down to “an inch” from 50 to 75 Yards (sorry Metres)……from 75 Years ago…. Well, I guess I must be lucky….

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By: RPM, FF, TGT... - 3rd June 2012 at 04:22

Careful here now….

I propose a word of caution here in the posts contained within this thread….

Please do not call TIGHAR any other names except the misnomer that they do verily call themselves anyway. I say “misnomer” because despite US$5.5 million flowing under the bridge, they have not “recovered” anything in the way, shape, or form of an “Historic Aircraft”.

To do otherwise and to embark on a crusade of name calling will only awaken Stepwilk, who, angered at the thought of derision of his beloved TIGHAR will gird his loins and breast with armour, mount his fiery white steed, be passed his lance and shield emblazoned with the Coat-of-Arms of Cornwall (upon Hudson) and come charging into the thread….

Hark ! I think I hear the thud of hooves now…. “Quickly Lads, raise the Portcullis and lower the Drawbridge…Hang on !…other way round…. raise the Drawbridge and lower the Portcullis…”.

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By: Snoopy7422 - 2nd June 2012 at 11:34

Groans….

The Infinately Gullible Historic Aircraft Retinue………:rolleyes:

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By: J Boyle - 2nd June 2012 at 06:14

Sarcasm aside folks, the article does not claim any of these artifacts ARE Earharts.

If we are sarcastic or skeptical, it’s because of TIGHAR’s own actions and statements.

RPM, FF, TGT…gives a nice list on why we (and especially the media) should be very skeptical.

If you cry wolf enough times, no one is going to believe you If you really do come up with something.
Today they issed a report on various radio calls…it could either be something important or it could be another round of half-baked suppositions.
Based on their history, I’m not sure I’d be willing to wager that THIS time they’ve gotten it right.

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By: RPM, FF, TGT... - 2nd June 2012 at 01:10

The long list…

So, this little glass jar joins the long list of items found on Nikumaroro which are inferred to be, but not proven to be, associated with but not necessarily part of Amelia Earhart, Fred Noonan, the Electra 10E or the Pratt & Whitney S3H1 engines….

We also have the ‘bones” found in 1940 and sent ultimately to Fiji, pronounced by a British Doctor to be “male, mixed-race, 5′ 6” tall but TIGHAR feeds the measurements the good doctor made through a Computer and the results say: “Female, Nordic race, 5’ 9″ tall”. Who was that then ?

We have a shoe sole size 10, at first said to be Earhart’s (too big however, so pronounced to be Noonan’s without further ado). Presumably he had normal feet.

We have a Sextant box which is “similar” to the one Noonan used, inferring that it could be Noonan’s.

We have a metal box with a Consolidated Aircraft Part No. on it which is inferred to have been Noonan’s bookcase because the Electra passed through Naval Bases and the USN “may have” given one to the duo for use in the Electra. There was a crashed B-24 on Canton Island during WWII.

We have a ragged piece of aluminium skin presumably off an aircraft because it has rivet holes in it, but try as they might, TIGHAR cannot match it to an Electra at all and former workers at Burbank say it cannot belong to the Electra 10E. There was a crashed C-47 also around the area on Sydney Island.

We have some bronze bushes found in the old Carpenters Hut on Nikumaroro which are inferred to be out of the Pratt & Whitney engines but how did the local islanders possibly disassemble a Wasp with their wrenches made from coconut shells ? Would a more practical source of the bushes have been as bearings for the carts used to collect coconuts for the production of Copra ? Bushes kept as spares for the carts used in the Government scheme to start Copra Production on the island ?

The list goes on and on and also captures a bone fragment which when tested cannot conclusively be said to be human but which was gathered up together with turtle bones.

Now, we have big news of a glass jar. A little jar “similar” to that kind of jar used, but not proven to be that kind of jar, used as a freckle cream jar. It is certainly not proven to be a “Dr. Berry’s Freckle Cream” jar.

Would it be correct to say that some of the U.S. Navy personnel and U.S. Coast Guardsmen of a young and tender age who were stationed on the island at the LORAN Facility during WWII could not possibly have had “freckles” ? Not possible for them to have had freckles ?

Why does it have to be Earhart’s freckle cream jar ? It could have belonged to some young freckled lad from Idaho, Minnesota, Hawaii or Oregon (IMHO)…. even if it indeed “is”, a freckle cream jar.

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By: J Boyle - 1st June 2012 at 22:58

Or are the called spotted Turtles?

Spotted owls are endangered here.
I’d think the turtles would be to.:D

AE would be in deep trouble from the animal rights croud if she did eat said turtle.

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By: Bob - 1st June 2012 at 22:15

Can turtles even get freckles?

You mean you’ve never seen the Great Pacific Freckled Turtle?

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By: RMR - 1st June 2012 at 21:54

Can turtles even get freckles?

Or are they called spotted Turtles?

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By: Robbo - 1st June 2012 at 21:49

(PS – isn’t the freckle cream jar a very old story, anyway…? I also note that the turtle has crept back onto the scene again.)

Can turtles even get freckles?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st June 2012 at 21:46

I think the inference is well and truly inferred, though….!

If there was not something stronger than a merely tentative connection being suggested, then why trumpet the “news”? Might as well report that they had found a 1980s disposable Bic razor if they were just reporting on random beach-combing finds.

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By: Bmused55 - 1st June 2012 at 21:39

Sarcasm aside folks, the article does not claim any of these artifacts ARE Earharts.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st June 2012 at 21:28

I found a broken tin of 3-in-1 oil in the field where Douglas Bader’s Spitfire crashed.

I believe that he may have used it to oil his tin legs when they squeaked.

I am having it compared to a 1941 tin. If it is the same then the result will be conclusive.

(PS – isn’t the freckle cream jar a very old story, anyway…? I also note that the turtle has crept back onto the scene again.)

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By: Ian Hunt - 1st June 2012 at 21:23

Glenn Miller’s pile ointment next …

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st June 2012 at 21:15

Oh dear.

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