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"The Malvinas are Argentine," said Vice President Scioli…

Here we go again….

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Argentina marked the 25th anniversary of its failed attempt to regain the Falkland Islands by force on Monday and reasserted claims to the South Atlantic archipelago.

“Neither war nor the passage of time changes reality: The Malvinas are Argentine,” said Vice President Daniel Scioli, using the islands’ Argentine name, as 5,000 people, many of them veterans of the 1982 war with Britain, applauded.

“We call upon the United Kingdom to heed international calls and resume negotiations,” Scioli said during the ceremony in Argentina’s southernmost city of Ushuaia — 440 miles (710 kilometers) southwest of the islands.

He said Argentina hopes to regain the islands though peaceful, diplomatic channels.

The 73-day war claimed 649 Argentine lives and 258 on the British side. Argentina surrendered on June 14, 1982.

But Argentines universally call the islands their own, insisting the British seized them by force in January 1833.

Scioli said the government’s decision last week to scrap a 1995 accord with Britain on oil exploration in the South Atlantic was part of its insistence on first resolving the issue of sovereignty.”

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By: Grey Area - 4th April 2007 at 18:26

And all the Vikings could come up with were beards, horned helmets and Skol Lager !

Not to mention most of the names of the days of the week.

And Iceland.

Also Greenland and (allegedly) Vinland.

Sadly their helmets didn’t have horns on them, apparently……

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By: kev35 - 4th April 2007 at 17:47

…..They weren’t too bothered with the islands then and the lack of action (save for the 1982 spat) tells me their attitude hasn’t changed.

If that’s your idea of a ‘spat’, I’m damned sure I wouldn’t like to see your idea of a war. That ‘spat’ cost around 1,000 lives, which is what the 25th Anniversary commemorations are about.

Insensitivity is alive and well and currently living in Scotland.

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By: Ren Frew - 4th April 2007 at 17:46

Absolutely, Brother Ian. Especially the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, fresh water system, and public health…….

And all the Vikings could come up with were beards, horned helmets and Skol Lager !

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By: Grey Area - 4th April 2007 at 17:40

Yes and they should apologise for everything they did to the British during those periods 🙂

Absolutely, Brother Ian. Especially the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, fresh water system, and public health…….

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By: EN830 - 4th April 2007 at 17:27

Hmmm.

Given that the Romans ruled almost the whole of what later became “England” for several centuries and the Vikings ended up settling in and subsequently ruling large tracts of the country, known as the Danelaw, (their influence survives today in many English place names, especially in the North) I wonder to what extent those two examples really support the point you were making? 😀

Yes and they should apologise for everything they did to the British during those periods 🙂

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By: Grey Area - 4th April 2007 at 17:17

…..the Romans, the Vikings… all learned the hard way….

Hmmm.

Given that the Romans ruled almost the whole of what later became “England” for several centuries and the Vikings ended up settling in and subsequently ruling large tracts of the country, known as the Danelaw, (their influence survives today in many English place names, especially in the North) I wonder to what extent those two examples really support the point you were making? 😀

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By: Bmused55 - 4th April 2007 at 12:03

Back in 82 the argies marched in, not expecting the British to sail 8000 miles to fight them, thinking we’d just leave it be as they’re “so far away”.
They didn’t bother checking the history books and learn the resolve Britian has always had for protecting its people and territories.
Napoleon, Hitler, the Romans, the Vikings… all learned the hard way.

The Argies also learned the hard way. Ever since then, all they’ve done is talk. Their last permanent presence on the islands ended in 1882. They weren’t too bothered with the islands then and the lack of action (save for the 1982 spat) tells me their attitude hasn’t changed.

As long as the inhabitants of the Falklands wish to be British, they will remain so.

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By: kev35 - 3rd April 2007 at 20:25

This is a very simple subject, the people who live on the Falkland Islands regard themselves as British and wish to remain that way.

Argentine claims are nothing more than petty and pathetic Nationalism.

Couldn’t be said any better.

If Argentina had truly wanted to ‘reclaim’ the Falklands, surely there would have been a greater military effort to retain them. Not decrying the courage of the Argentinians involved but the Falklands are islands and therefore surrounded by sea. Without the will or the capability to control the waters around the islands, their eventual defeat was a foregone conclusion.

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By: sealordlawrence - 3rd April 2007 at 19:20

This is a very simple subject, the people who live on the Falkland Islands regard themselves as British and wish to remain that way.

Argentine claims are nothing more than petty and pathetic Nationalism.

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By: Grey Area - 3rd April 2007 at 19:07

Come on, chaps. Let’s be realistic here.

Any Argentine political leader who said otherwise would be committing electoral suicide, as would any British politicial leader who publicly agreed with Senor Scioli.

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By: Ren Frew - 3rd April 2007 at 18:38

They talk the talk.
But can they walk the walk?

The Falklands are populated by people who insist they’re British.
As long as those people fly the Union Flag, the Islands will remain British.

One hopes the argies won’t try and take them by force again. But if they do, the defences are more than capable of giving them a bloody nose.

I just wonder how many Argentines would be interested in upping sticks and moving to the Malvinas should they be ‘re-negotiated’ ?

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By: EN830 - 3rd April 2007 at 17:25

The “Falklands” have at one point or another been claimed by Spain, France, Argentina and Britain.

For the past 174 years, except for a short 72 day period in 1982, they have remained a British dependency and long may they continue in that direction.

Oddly it was the intervention of the USS Lexington which destroyed the Argentine settlement of Puerto Soledad in December 1831, that led to an invasion by the United Kingdom in 1833 and the subsequent colonisation by the British.

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By: Bmused55 - 3rd April 2007 at 15:39

They talk the talk.
But can they walk the walk?

The Falklands are populated by people who insist they’re British.
As long as those people fly the Union Flag, the Islands will remain British.

One hopes the argies won’t try and take them by force again. But if they do, the defences are more than capable of giving them a bloody nose.

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By: Phil Foster - 3rd April 2007 at 09:16

I thought that the international calls were for Argentina to wake up and smell the coffee. Again and again and again………………..

Scioli said the government’s decision last week to scrap a 1995 accord with Britain on oil exploration in the South Atlantic was part of its insistence on first resolving the issue of sovereignty.

Does this mean the UK is now free to explore alone in its own waters?

Result.

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By: steve rowell - 3rd April 2007 at 07:45

As was the catch cry of the day “give the Argies some bargy”

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By: Creaking Door - 3rd April 2007 at 00:57

Well with 97% of the population of Argentina being of European origin I’ll be happy to give the Falklands back to Argentina when the Argentine European population gives Argentina back to the indigenous population of South America.

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By: SOC - 2nd April 2007 at 23:31

The Malvinas are Argentine,”

I heard that the Florida Keys were really Spanish, too :rolleyes:

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