January 4, 2004 at 4:17 pm
What you think of various RJs.
YAK40-Ugly little blighter.
F28/70/100-Great plane. Very comfortable. F70 ugly.
CRJ200-Aren’t the windows low?
CRJ700/900-See F28 comments, add that it is very quiet.
ERJ-Roomy!Lovely!Efficient!
EMB170-Delay, delays,looks comfortable though.
ARJ/BAe-Very nice. I like the fact that there’s F class.
328Jet-ARJ gone wrong, see YAK40 comments.
717-Wow.
A318-Not so wow.
EMB175-195-Great plane!
TU134-Ugh.
RRJ-See 328Jet comments.
By: wysiwyg - 25th January 2004 at 19:58
Does it really matter how we define a regional jet? Cathay consider the 777 as a regional aircraft when considered relevant to their network. The high capacity 747’s used as people movers in Japan are surely regional jets.
By: tenthije - 23rd January 2004 at 20:31
Originally posted by Jeanske_SN
The first regional jet was baack in the sixties, but that was 30 years before the world understood there was a market for it. It was something british with the engines mounted on top of n the wings? Not sure:s. Anyway, Not 50 were built.
That’s the German VFW/Fokker 614. Very similar in capacity to the F28.
By: starjet - 23rd January 2004 at 20:20
Some people consider the 717 as the largest regional jet.
Regional aircraft are considered to have between 19 and 100 seats.
By: Jeanske_SN - 23rd January 2004 at 19:35
The first regional jet was baack in the sixties, but that was 30 years before the world understood there was a market for it. It was something british with the engines mounted on top of n the wings? Not sure:s. Anyway, Not 50 were built.
By: Whiskey Delta - 23rd January 2004 at 04:20
Originally posted by mikeconnell
Indeed they do, but are they using it as a regional jet?I don’t regard it as one.
Mike
What is your definition of a Regional Jet?
By: MSR777 - 22nd January 2004 at 17:55
YAK 40…..The first regional jet ever!
TU134……Not a true regional but stunning good looks.
The rest of it, apart from the Fokkers, you can send back to Argos!!!
By: mikeconnell - 22nd January 2004 at 16:59
Originally posted by EAL_KING
air tran love the B717 they kep ordering more and more
Indeed they do, but are they using it as a regional jet?
I don’t regard it as one.
Mike
By: EAL_KING - 21st January 2004 at 12:22
air tran love the B717 they kep ordering more and more
By: mikeconnell - 21st January 2004 at 10:17
IMHO most of the aircraft listed are not true regional jets – capacity is not the only issue here. I do not think the 717, A318, Tu134 and the F28/F70/F100 are even in the reckoning.
Even the CRJ200 is suited more to thin routes between medium – large airports that have a long enough runway for it.
A good measure (IMO) is whether the aircraft can get into LCY, and this limits the choice to the ARJ/BAe146 and the ERJ135 with an extra option (plus the 328Jet?). The Embraer 170 will have this capability too, I believe.
Just my 2p
Mike
By: Bmused55 - 21st January 2004 at 10:05
Originally posted by Matthew Murray
Another dig at the A318? The reason the hold door is that far back is that the avionics bay extends quite far back….
I know, u told me. Doesn’t negate the fact that ground crew refuse to service it. If they hit the engine and damage it, no matter how silly the design of the plane, their out on the street
By: Bmused55 - 21st January 2004 at 06:29
apparently grounds crews do not like the a318.
The forward cargo door is so close to the wings, the right hand side engine is right next to it.
Ramp rats have to carefully position the baggage conveyor at an angle. Get it wrong and you bang into the engine
In america, Frontier airlines found that Ramp Rats refused to approach the a318, they didn’t want to loose their jobs if they hit the engine, which is very easy to do.
As for regional gets, I quit like the CRJ’s, they looks cool.
Embraers too!
By: steve rowell - 21st January 2004 at 04:20
The 717 has proven to be very popular with passengers an crew alike with Qantaslink
By: rekkof2004 - 21st January 2004 at 00:26
give me a f100 f70 any day i think that the tail from the b717 just does not look right if fokker aircraft was still going i do not think that airbus would have the a318 and boeing the 717
Originally posted by wysiwyg
YAK40- Don’t know much about it but I’d love to take a good look inside one. Will never be popular in the west.
F28/70/100- Way ahead of its time. So far ahead it almost missed the boat by being there too early!
CRJ200- OK but windows too small and low. Too high take off and landing speeds to be truely competitive (Cat D). Preferred the ERJ145.
CRJ700/900- Looks pretty but probably the same flaws as its smaller brother.
ERJ- I really wanted to dislike it before I flew on one…and then I was really quite impressed.
EMB170- I think this is potentially gone to take over the whole regional market. Looks stunning.
ARJ/BAe- Like a trip to a 1960’s museum. British industry up to its usual standards.
328Jet- Excellent route proving aeroplane.
717- Dead duck based on antique rubbish. Obsolete inside 5 years. Quite nice from the passenger perspective, though.
A318- It’s a 319 that’s come out of a motorway pile up! Should be OK. Will leave the competition standing when you compare cabin width.
TU134- Same as the Yak but not so nice looking.
RRJ- Don’t know anything about it but it’s not a looker.
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