The risks of body scanners.

Flying by Regular Public Transport (RPT) has all the charm of going to the toilet – it stinks!

Its no fun, its boring and you are cramped in!

regards

All ionizing radiation can cause cancer according to Dr Karl (BBC).

One simple fact is that as we eradicate some of the more traditional causes of premature exit such as starvation, war and pestilence, we all live longer, giving cancer a far greater chance of being the thing that finally does for you in the end.
Moggy

Quite.
I was looking at figures from the UK on basset hound longevity/mortality, and statistically cancer is what will likely kill them.

Think about it, a well cared for dog is probably the healthiest member of a family.
If fed a quality well-balanced pet food and an occasional trip to the vet, a dog is very healthy.
They don’t smoke, drink, drink & drive, do drugs, or use cell phones/body scanners. On top of that, they (should) get plenty of exercise.
Add to that, a bassset’s low stress personality and life style (mine sleeps 16 hours a day), they have a nice long life (about 12 years).
Of course, they could still kill themselves by eating something bad, or cause you to die by trippping over them (a daily occurance in the kitchen as they await a meal to jump from the counter).

But in the end, despite their healthy lifestyle, cancer still gets them.
They’re more than 2.5 times more likely to die from cancer than old age or four times more likely than heart trouble.

Look back in the thread, there is a You Tube link which satirizes airport security. The truth is, and I have proved it in several countries, there will always be weak points in security. Do not ask me how as I will not divulge how I have made a mockery of them on several occasions. :diablo:

This is just turning into a snow ball effect in airport security. Once this is done they will look for something else, maybe a machine that dismantles you and puts you back together again.
When all we really need is a machine that detects the low life terrorist scumbags and vapourises them. Come on Rapiscan and friends, how hard can it be?:diablo:

Ah, the Six Million Dollar Man plan! And just noticed, Congratulations on your promotion!:)

This is just turning into a snow ball effect in airport security. Once this is done they will look for something else, maybe a machine that dismantles you and puts you back together again.

I agree. Objecting to body scanners for the reasons given is, ultimately, ridiculous.
I tried one years ago at Heathrow that was being trialled. Apart from having to stand in a silly position, it was a non-event.

Well I think body scanners are an unnecessary step.
People who are worried about sitting next to bombers or paedophiles should stay away from aviation & stop imposing ridiculous rules & procedures on those of us prepared to take the risk
Are you for real? Perhaps you might want to take the risk but how about the crew and passengers around you.
Have you ever stood next to someone who was smoking? My guess is that you had more chance of ever doing harm to yourself by inhaling the toxins etc than going through a body scanner.
I would bet that those “willing to take the risk” would be thinking differently whilst kissing their ass goodbye at 30,000 feet.

Brilliant! Loved the name calling bit.

The Chasers take on airport security
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3grHjibNdA&feature=grec&playnext_from=TL&videos=S3o5uGHC_yI&playnext=1

Didn’t you know that they can detect paedophiles as well? :p

HP81

I’m a little confused as to how these scanners will prevent anybody sitting next to a paedophile?

Moggy

And for those who don’t want to take the risk but need to get to another country, fast, to get to a sick loved one?

Well I think body scanners are an unnecessary step.
People who are worried about sitting next to bombers or paedophiles should stay away from aviation & stop imposing ridiculous rules & procedures on those of us prepared to take the risk:dev2:

There is some muppet teacher in this week’s Times Education Supplement who is concerned that he will not be able to ‘protect’ his teenage students’ modesty from airport body scanners when he takes them abroad soon. He is concerned not with cancer or any other health risks, but the possibility that their ‘naked’ images have been produced by the state in contravention of child protection laws and that they might be disseminated to Lord-knows-who on the internet.
I know that there was another thread on this subject recently, but what a fool. The letter makes me almost embarrassed to admit to being a teacher.

I’m all for them. Anything that makes flying safer. Others are right (IMO), so many other things these days ‘give you cancer’ so you can never win (unless you live a very sheltered life). I’m sure sitting here typing on my wireless laptop with mobile phone beside me is giving me a fair amount of dose of radiation anyway.

Perhaps someone needs to look at airports that already use body scanners (like Domodedovo) and test their frequent fliers to see if there’s any change in them.

One simple fact is that as we eradicate (from the western world anyway) some of the more traditional causes of premature exit such as starvation, war and pestilence, we all live longer, giving cancer a far greater chance of being the thing that finally does for you in the end.

No amount of not going near x-ray machines will make the slightest bit of difference to the fact that each of us will die within the forseeable future

Moggy

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Kev are you in the medical field or do you just know a hell of a lot about it.

If you are then maybe you can answer this.

I was told once that you wont find Cancer on a Death Cert as a COD as it is the associated illnesses that kill you and not the cancer.

Is that right does anyone know.

So in effect cancer on it own is not a killer it would seem.

I’m way out in left field.

Cancer is put down as a cause on death certificates but it is usually called carcinoma, plus, a lot of cancers aren’t actually called cancer. My Uncle and Aunt’s certificates both refer to carcinoma in different ways. The other things listed on death certificates are often a result of the cancer, ie, renal failure due to carcinoma of the kidney etc.

If the doses issued by these scanners are minimal, I don’t see why people are so indignant about passing through them. A harmless dose of radiation or wake up halfway across the Atlantic and find you’ve got a seat all to yourself and no aeroplane? Surely, it’s not that difficult a choice. If it is, then don’t fly, or change your job.

As Aleksandr Orlov says ‘simples.’

Regards,

kev35

I completely agree with you.

My point is, there never seems to be one single consensus these days on whether or not something is safe for you.