the russian typoon class sub

If you guys tell me how and where,i guess i can upload the video somewhere.Its 362 Mb big.I am skeptical howerer that there is a place i could upload it online. :confused:

The alternative is a good old mail,but that costs money 🙁

must be nice too have onboard i guess, be it a pool or a sauna. Shame they couldnt off added a little sand and beach chairs too 🙂 .Just wondering would the origional idea of pool or sauna (whatever) have been linked to other projects for Soviet vessels? i mean were they like wanting to see how viable it was with the intention of perhaps using them in other newer (unbuilt or designed) subs and ships? Or was the whole thing just a ‘treat’ to that class of sub. I’m just Imagineing a Sub bigger then typhoon see with a nice big pool for actual proper exercise cos isnt swimming the perfect way to keep fit in a boat – i mean the same area as a Gym roughly but not all the stupid clanking weights and what not. I dunno just a thought. And dosnt swimming excersie every single muscle int he body almost all at once – seems ideal to me 🙂

A person is also able to swim laps in a swimming pool.

How long is this pool? I can’t see the right edge of it… how do you know how long it is?

Do you see how the water is bubbling??? How many swimming pools have you been in where the water bubbles?? Maybe this Ruskie has terrible gas or more likely he is not in a swimming pool but a hot tub!

Except the Russians have no tradition of using what the west calls a “hot tub”. Most hot tubs I have seen are for 2-4 people at most. The video I saw of the Typhoons pool you could get 20 into it if they were all sitting or standing.
They have in addition to this a Banya, or Sauna.

“And now Nelson you are going to say that this is a picture of a pool somewhere else (videocaption from TV coverage on Severostal mentioned by dnjik)”

Do you see how the water is bubbling??? How many swimming pools have you been in where the water bubbles?? Maybe this Ruskie has terrible gas or more likely he is not in a swimming pool but a hot tub! A person is also able to swim laps in a swimming pool. The most anyone could do in this hot tub is chase their **** like my dog does!

OK, OK, it’s a hot tub, bcause it’s in a Russian sub. If that was a US sub it would have been called a pool. I got Your point. By the way, ever been to sauna? Nobody cares for hot tub after sitting in 120 Celsius hot compartment. It’s just a basin with cold water to get cooled after sauna.

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“And now Nelson you are going to say that this is a picture of a pool somewhere else (videocaption from TV coverage on Severostal mentioned by dnjik)”

Do you see how the water is bubbling??? How many swimming pools have you been in where the water bubbles?? Maybe this Ruskie has terrible gas or more likely he is not in a swimming pool but a hot tub! A person is also able to swim laps in a swimming pool. The most anyone could do in this hot tub is chase their **** like my dog does!

The D5 was tested first in 1987. Trident I, the C4, was tested in 1979. The C4 was 10.39 meters long, 1.88 meters in diameter, and carried 6 Mk. 4 RVs to a range of 4000 NM.

Good point! Completely forgot that D5 tested in early nineties.

Soviet solid-fuel rocket technology lagged significantly behind the US. The R-39 solid-fuel rocket which arms the typhoon is 16 m long, 2.4 m in diameter and weighs 90 tons! Compares poorly against the Trident D5 (13m, 2.1 and 58, respectively, if I remember correctly).

Hardly fair – The R-39 was test firing nearly 10 years before the Trident D5…

I remember reading comments from a Russian naval officer about how the west criticised the liquid propellent rockets they used as being too dangerous, yet the only accident he had ever been in involving a SLBM was an SS-N-20 which was dropped onto a Typhoon during loading and started a fire that resulted in that vessel being nicknamed red october due to the damage.

He must not have been part of the crew of the Yankee-class SSBN K-219 that had a fire and sank on 6 October 1986 due to a leaky seal allowing seawater to interact with the liquid propellant of one of the SLBMs.

But it’s a liquid rocket, so it is noisier to operate than a solid-propelled one.

What do you mean by noisier? It is a storable liquid… it isn’t as if you have to fuel up the missile before you fire it…

I remember reading comments from a Russian naval officer about how the west criticised the liquid propellent rockets they used as being too dangerous, yet the only accident he had ever been in involving a SLBM was an SS-N-20 which was dropped onto a Typhoon during loading and started a fire that resulted in that vessel being nicknamed red october due to the damage.

So they develop an entirely new sub type for a missile that is 1.5 metres longer than an SS-N-18? A bit of over kill isn’t it? If it was just a new missile then Delta V would make more sense with a slightly higher rear area and another length exstention.

It’s not the length, it’s the mass (primarily) and diameter (secondary) of the R-39 that resulted in the catamaran design of the Typhoon. Two pressure hulls run alongside, while the missile battery is between them.

Incidentally, the R-29 which arms the Delta IV is the best in the world in terms of mass/payload ratio (besting even the Trident D5). But it’s a liquid rocket, so it is noisier to operate than a solid-propelled one. So the Soviet Navy had to bite the bullet and accept the inefficiency of the new R-39 and to develop the Typhoon to carry it.

Of course the R-30 (Bulava) is a much better system, likely besting the Trident D5, but I for one don’t have the necessary info to claim it.

And, of course, lets not forget the aforementioned swimming pool! Also, amzing as it seems, I recall hearing that they have small pets (cats and birds, perhaps hamsters) living in special quarters to relieve the psychological pressure of having to spend months on the boat barely moving beneath the ice….

would they then have “special quarters” for wives, girlfriends and hookers to “relieve psychological pressure”? 😀

the NCC-1701-D carried families aboard…

Any discussion resulting from you making such a retarded claim is your own fault.

First of all what do you mean by retarded?
Did you not see the smiley face? Are Americans allowed to have no sense of humour?
And how does this relate to some form of brain injury?

Second comparing a Soviet SSBN with US Navy Subs must therefore be a retarded question too I guess.

Hence the need to build a sub that could carry such a monstrous rocket. Enter the Typhoon.

So they develop an entirely new sub type for a missile that is 1.5 metres longer than an SS-N-18? A bit of over kill isn’t it? If it was just a new missile then Delta V would make more sense with a slightly higher rear area and another length exstention.

Well, one thing is certain – the Akula/Typhoon(Project 941) class is so large out of necessity.

Soviet solid-fuel rocket technology lagged significantly behind the US. The R-39 solid-fuel rocket which arms the typhoon is 16 m long, 2.4 m in diameter and weighs 90 tons! Compares poorly against the Trident D5 (13m, 2.1 and 58, respectively, if I remember correctly).

Hence the need to build a sub that could carry such a monstrous rocket. Enter the Typhoon.

There is, however, one advantage the Typhoon does have over the Ohio class, and its the strengthened sail which can crush through up to 3 meters of ice! This allows the sub to spend most of the time in the Arctic, where it’s hard to detect.

And, of course, lets not forget the aforementioned swimming pool! Also, amzing as it seems, I recall hearing that they have small pets (cats and birds, perhaps hamsters) living in special quarters to relieve the psychological pressure of having to spend months on the boat barely moving beneath the ice….

Most LA’s have bow planes not tower planes.

Bow planes were fitted from SSN-751 on.

My CLAIM was that the Typhoon carries more SLBMs than any US SSN…

If you took that seriously isn’t that case closed?

Any discussion resulting from you making such a retarded claim is your own fault.

Don’t believe the hype from Aklula 2 on forward all our subs are quieter than US’s, the U.S. is just saying our subs are not quieter just to discredit us.

“It’s a conspiracy don’t ya know?” :rolleyes:

It has both an inner and outter hull,meaning one torpedo his isn’t going to sink it.Also,its one of the quietest subs there are,right up next to the Ohio Class,and for a Russian sub,thats saying something.The Typhoons were designed to strike any targets from the safety of home waters in the Arctic.The hull being designed to smash through the ice to fire the missile.This is why,unlike the American Los Angeles and Ohio Classes,the dive planes are on near the forward hull as opposed to the conning tower on the American boats.Plus in an operational scenario,you’d have a good chunk of the Russian surface and subsurface fleet protecting the Typhoons,making them an even harder target to destroy.

Don’t believe the hype from Aklula 2 on forward all our subs are quieter than US’s, the U.S. is just saying our subs are not quieter just to discredit us.

Don’t take the fact the crew have cabins as a sign of the Typhoon being revolutionary, the idea of hot bunking vanished from most developed navies a long time ago other than some exceptional and special cases.

So the Ohio class SSBNs in the US navy must be a special case then?

And now Nelson you are going to say that this is a picture of a pool somewhere else :p (videocaption from TV coverage on Severostal mentioned by dnjik)

Don’t take the fact the crew have cabins as a sign of the Typhoon being revolutionary, the idea of hot bunking vanished from most developed navies a long time ago other than some exceptional and special cases.