FG-1D FAS 201 Folks:
Good day!
We are getting a bit closer to discover the real ID Buno of the FG-1D FAS sample above. There were at least 4 of them at the Ilopango ramp c. 1958 with the poss scheme
above. However, we may need some id help.
We are kindly requesting some help with the European IPMS folks for a copy of the article in which this drawing appeared c. 2004-2005. Sometimes these articles include real pictures of the models involved. If anyone knows or remembers more detail plz post. Tks in advance.
By: fah619 - 15th March 2015 at 15:26
FAS FG-1D Folks:
Greetings fm this side of the Pond!
..the magic of losing/locating some a/c pictures!
While doing some digging/archaeological venture deep in the archives found this FAS FG-1Ds pic below. It shows 4 poss 5 “gull grey” (L/S) FAS FG-1Ds. at Ilopango c. ’58-’59. The intriguing sample, is the one at the three 0’clock position (green circle), with a mixture of dark blue at the tail, a dark blue R/Wing & still showing the FAS markings in a ‘gull grey fuselage. I may be going out on a limb on this one… but if this aircraft is not the long missing FAS 201 left semi-abandoned in El Paso, TX c. ’57 … then what other a/c could it be??
I seek some comments/opinions fm the F4U league, modelers folks while I wait fm an enhance photo version of it. Maybe someone else may see other details while a better pic appears fm someone’s attic or shoe box in the El Paso, TX or Ilopango area. I could be wrong.. since FAS a/c changed Reg sequence often, but my feeling is that we’re not only into the perimeter of things but.. heading in the right direction for now. 2 B cont..! Any other details/stories plz post. Tks in advance. Photo via FAS forum c. 2002/3.
By: fah619 - 11th March 2015 at 02:37
Mark:
Good Day !
Tks! Excellent observation of both pics. I see something hanging on the L/H view.
I also have the comments of a Canadian pilot that claims that the damage to the R/ Horizontal stab is something difficult to do on a ground loop. I believe both pics were taking by diff photographers by looking at the position of the tail wheel. (45 degree angle) at poss diff dates also. I’m waiting to see other angles of the original pics in a couple of weeks or so .
By: mark_pilkington - 10th March 2015 at 19:58
FG-1D FAS 201 Folks:
Good day!
Digging a bit deeper in the pyramids!
How FAS 201 actually looked during May ’57 after the ground loop accident. This L/side view of the R/Elevator & R/H Horizontal stab shows no damage to that particular area. This may also indicate that this was a poss ground damage done afterwards. Photo Via Brian Baker.
The R/H Horizontal stabiliser in this LHS view seems to be evidencing the same damage visible in the earlier RHS view, the R/H stabilizer tip is clearly missing from view and the R/H stabilizer shadow on the ground below it is identical to that of the earlier RHS view (pasted below) and also clearly shows the tip damage is present.
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I would propose both views were photographed on the same day.
Regards
Mark Pilkington
By: fah619 - 10th March 2015 at 14:32
FG-1D FAS 201 Folks:
Good Day Fm across the Pond!
Among the latest findings about the missing “gull grey” FAS 201 is this sole sample of a FAS FG-1D pasturing c.’68-’69 at their boneyard. Most of the FG-1D FAS samples show some weathering ..& the picture below is no exception. However, this L/H side view show some other details of further paint oxidation due to exposure to the elements. The Left/Wing root do show some traces of a poss “gull grey’ scheme underneath indicating that some sanding was done but not to the bare metal. This sample shows a number at the tail area but it’s not legible in this picture for now. We are trying to get a better pic or resolution of it. 2 B Cont..!
By: fah619 - 4th February 2015 at 18:20
Flyer:
Good Day!
Tks for the pics, info & data again!
Pictured below is the most likely scheme used by FAS on their ‘gull grey’ FG-1Ds. The yellow schemes are 50/50 on this Feb 2015!! They’re similar to your decals/drawings. We do have photo evidence of the yellow schemes being used on the dark blue samples. c. 1960s or so. We ‘re still digging in!! Tks again. Photo via AEC.
By: Flyer - 4th February 2015 at 17:45
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By: fah619 - 26th January 2015 at 02:46
FG-1D FAS Folks:
Good Day & Greetings across the Pond!
While doing some more digging for the whereabouts of FAS 201, (No, this one was not buried), or found in Midwest barn but in a Missouri farm as the story goes. It was in deep storage for some 15 years by the late Bob Hood in his farm. Then, later on some of its FAS FG-1D fuselages/ cousins were found c. 2004-2005 in a scrapyard lot S. of the Border near the former Ilopango Airport still semi-complete in a corner yard. We hope to see some pics of the stash now in S. Florida. (at least 5 fuselages) according to sources.
We also found another interesting drawing (see pic below of a FAS 211, a poss Buno 67087 in ‘gull grey” scheme perhaps not accurate for that era but with a poss link to the former FAS 201! We’re still working in a few loose ends!! If anyone has some more details about this drawing plz post. Tks in advance.Photo via AEC.
By: fah619 - 21st January 2015 at 04:37
FG-1D FAS 201 Folks:
Good Day!
..slowly but surely! Ran into a poc that happened to have a 1/48 model of an FG-1D FAS 201 based on what a photographer saw c.’57-’58 at El Paso TX. His named is Mr. Brian Baker in a transient flight at El Paso Int, airport. Brian has been taking a/c photos for years & he just could not pass this F4U parked near a taxiway by the main ramp. The capture is important historically as it documents/establish the FAS 201 scheme during its unfortunately short ferry flight fm Litchfield NAS, AZ. Photo via JJennings.
By: fah619 - 19th January 2015 at 02:46
The saga of FG-1D FAS 201!
p.s So what happened to our FAS 201??
Most likely it was disassembled & crated in place some time c.’58 & then trucked to Houston or LA ports in the US for the boat ride home & fixing. We do have photo evidence of the presence of at least 4 poss 5 “gull grey” type aircraft at the Mil ramp at Ilopango by May ’58 or earlier. Same with the B/w photo evidence of the line-up of up to 15 FAS aircraft at the boneyard mainly in the dark blue scheme including 2 poss “gull grey type in the same area c. Oct ’66. These unique ‘gull grey’ schemes were FAS 201, 202, 203, 204 & poss FAS 205. 2 B Cont….
By: fah619 - 19th January 2015 at 02:42
FAS FG-1D Folks:
Back to our FAS 201 tale. Did Lt. Sanchez come back to fly FAS 201 once fixed?? Did FAS 201 got fix in place?? We do not believe so. By March ’58 when the fund$$ were authorized for the repair FAS was also struggling with FG-1D parts & maintaining the 19 aircraft already at home. Five more airframes were ordered just for parts plus the repair of FAS 201 c. March ’58. The five spare FG-1Ds took a long time to arrive, so long that FAS was forced to contract IRAN maint for about 7 aircraft of the fleet with SALAS of Costa Rica c.May ’60 plus placing some 10 aircraft in long temp outdoor storage..See photo below.Via FAS Forum.
By: fah619 - 10th January 2015 at 14:41
Flyer:
Good Day!
Tks for the info/data again. We have found out along the way that FAS FG-1Ds wore many schemes during their service years. This could be one of them. FAS 210 was not a player during the ’69 war.. except as a decoy with other cousins at the FAS boneyard with a dark blue scheme. We’ll keep digging! Tks.
By: Flyer - 9th January 2015 at 18:07
These FAS FG-1Ds with yellow schemes keep emerging fm the deep fm time to time!! What did the Valka.CZ Folks said in the caption/forum of the above sample? may I ask?? This looks like a fresh “gull grey” type. Thank you again. We are getting a bit closer to the FAS 201
They wrote: “This FG-1D plane flew in Escuadrilla 2, Escuadron Caza Bombardeo, Fuerza Aerea Salvadorena and was the participant of Soccer War. It have Grey/Light Blue/Yellow colours. Date – July 1969”.
By: fah619 - 9th January 2015 at 02:29
Flyer:
Greetings across the Pond!
Nice find again! Tks. These FAS FG-1Ds with yellow schemes keep emerging fm the deep fm time to time!! What did the Valka.CZ Folks said in the caption/forum of the above sample? may I ask?? This looks like a fresh “gull grey” type. Thank you again. We are getting a bit closer to the FAS 201 .. a lot closer than the Burma Spitfires!! -)
By: Flyer - 8th January 2015 at 18:03
Does anyone know the whereabouts/story about this interesting find? FG-1D FAS 210 in NMF. c 1970s.
What interesting You have found in this ? I see only one difference – yellow area on tail on Your profile is larger, than on profile below:
By: fah619 - 7th January 2015 at 23:46
FAS FG-1D Folks:
Good day!
Does anyone know the whereabouts/story about this interesting find? FG-1D FAS 210 in NMF. c 1970s. Photo via AEC. Tks in advance.
By: fah619 - 6th January 2015 at 15:30
FG-1D FAS 201 Folks:
Good day!
Digging a bit deeper in the pyramids!
How FAS 201 actually looked during May ’57 after the ground loop accident. This L/side view of the R/Elevator & R/H Horizontal stab shows no damage to that particular area. This may also indicate that this was a poss ground damage done afterwards. Photo Via Brian Baker.
By: fah619 - 6th January 2015 at 01:59
Flyer:
Greetings across the Pond! & happy 2015!!
Tks for the info & data. I think we’re getting somewhere with FAS 201. The pic below is how the poss FAS 201 looked at the IPMS 1st Prize Championship in Europe. c. 2003. A guy fm Cyprus, Greece nicknamed “Misko” won that price. If you have any info of his winning model(s) or other photos plz post. Tks in advance.
By: fah619 - 25th December 2014 at 19:29
Ground Loop Folks:
Good Day!
Following up on the in & outs of the FG-1D FAS 201 a fellow Wixer (prob a pilot) happens to mentioned that by looking at the pic below and the damage done to the R Elevator & H/Stab that it may questionable such a damage coming fm a ground loop incident.
p.s I’d like to hear fm some tail wheel pilots about their experiences & comments about ground loop accidents/incidents also. Tks in advance.
By: fah619 - 24th December 2014 at 05:06
Flyer:
Good day! Tks for the info & data.
Great capture believe or not! The Spanish caption is misleading since we know now in Dec 2014 that FAS 201 was an FG-1D (Goodyear Type). Plz ck your pm.
By: Flyer - 23rd December 2014 at 19:18
That’s it! nice picture indeed. It’s also apprx the same time frame/era of the smaller pic above. Do the mentioned encyclopedia has any notes or captions about the drawing itself?? Where, what, who, when, name or artist. Most of all, do the drawing origin/represents fm an original picture?? Tks in advance.
p.s Do you have a copy of the article itself??
As to copy of that article – it contains nothing unusual. It have usual short survey of “Corsair” history from F4U1 through F4U5/7 up to FG1/FG2, like most part of books/articles/magazines dedicated to “Corsair” have. I feel sure, this was some serial English-language edition, which was translated to Spanish language.
Below are the cover page of particular issue, and the fragment of page with FAS “Corsair”.
As You see, there is not any specific information. Also this article have not any information about artist, have not any photos of foreign “Corsairs”.
So, only this image is related to FAS.
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