The Spitfire that appears to fly backwards?

Eee bay gum, I wish that I could think of one to recommend to you!

Been there, done it and paid the sellers fees – but not any longer as even with the newly announced price structure they take 40% of the profit on any new stuff (assuming I manage to get the full retail price for it) in fees – and there was me thinking that I was meant to be the one who got most of the benefit from the work I put into making sales.
I reckon you’re just desperate for me to get some money so I can deliver your 0/400 parts to Shoreham.

so it looks like I will have to stay at home and find an auction site where buyers appreciate the true value of these rarities.

Eee bay gum, I wish that I could think of one to recommend to you!

I already know about the nose wheel coversion, I think you will find that you have one from a much later Mk XVI they found that due to the extra weight of the new engine the Spit would tip on its nose without a nose wheel.

Damn and I was relying on the profit from that to pay the petrol to Shoreham so that I could deliver the bits for Avion Ancien assuming that I can still find them in my coal bunker.
Seems that all I have left is the Swiss Navy P-51 skis (no takers? – They were used for operating off the decks of carriers on Lake Geneva when it was snowing! – (honest guv!) so it looks like I will have to stay at home and find an auction site where buyers appreciate the true value of these rarities.

Graham, Graham, Graham, you really have missed the bargain of a lifetime. When you mentioned the nosewheel conversion and the risk of K5054 tipping on its nose it all became clear to me…… That’s why the prop offered on ebay rotates the wrong way, the prototype became a pusher for this modification. Now if only you’d taken this seriously you could have had that prop for a paltry ten grand and Mark12 would have been lurking round your lockup in a black balaclava with a crowbar.

Robbo,

K5054…is that the Supermarine Aviation Works (Vickers) Ltd Type 300 prototype Spitfire?

Mark

🙂 I have an invisible Lancaster with it’s cloaking device activated – – – honest. 🙂

I already know about the nose wheel coversion, I think you will find that you have one from a much later Mk XVI they found that due to the extra weight of the new engine the Spit would tip on its nose without a nose wheel.
I in fact have the original design from K5054 which will also be on sale at Shoreham. I hope this answers your question ?

Would you mind taking along with you, WJ244, the turbines off my Andorran Air Force Handley Page 0/400 seaplane conversion. I’ve got a certificate of authenticity signed by some bloke called Anthony Blunt. I was going to put them on eBay but I’m told that the con a**e sirs are all going to Shoreham and they’re bound to pay my asking price of 25 million Roubles!

Andy

I really wish you would not offer parts from MY airoplane K5054 as prizes at Shoreham.
I will be bringing a large reel, of ORIGINAL copper wire, a propellor and airframe all from K5054. I will have my lap top so if you need authentification I can type one out for you. I have letter heads from most of the top auction houses so you can choose. I also have quite allot of the ORIGINAL fibreglass panels which will also be for sale. Of coarse such rare stuff wont be cheap, fibreglass panels will start at £5000.
While Mr Saunders may claim he has parts from this aircraft all his are fake, I own it all, int tat rite gov?

As you now own K5054 would you be interested in my nosewheel from the very same aeroplane. Many don’t realise that this was a conversion which was never photographed. The fibreglass panels you have must be those for the rear fuselage which were specially made for the nosewheel conversion to correct the centre of gravity and stop it tail sitting.
If you have any doubts about the authenticity of my nosewheel I can provide the certificate of authenticity signed by Lord Lucan so it must be genuine.
If you don’t buy this immediately I will be forced to take it to an aerojumble but I will have to make special arrangements with the organisers to hold back the hordes of people who will want to buy it.
I also have some skis from Swiss Navy P-51 Mustangs to dispose of as well!

Three ‘copy neg’ images from thr late Chris Ashworth collection.

Two at least, well known shots.

I would have said £5 value, £10 absolute tops, but this man…

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/British-WWII-Supermarine-Spitfire-Original-Photos-/300537373333?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item45f96c6295

Mark

Wow, based on that listing my photo collection is now worth, at todays exchange rate, approx. NZ$10,450,000.00.:eek:

I’ll have to change my insurance.:rolleyes:

Three ‘copy neg’ images from thr late Chris Ashworth collection.

Two at least, well known shots.

I would have said £5 value, £10 absolute tops, but this man…

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/British-WWII-Supermarine-Spitfire-Original-Photos-/300537373333?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item45f96c6295

Mark

No BIN price.

Hope I don’t get sniped at the last second 🙁

Andy

I really wish you would not offer parts from MY airoplane K5054 as prizes at Shoreham.
I will be bringing a large reel, of ORIGINAL copper wire, a propellor and airframe all from K5054. I will have my lap top so if you need authentification I can type one out for you. I have letter heads from most of the top auction houses so you can choose. I also have quite allot of the ORIGINAL fibreglass panels which will also be for sale. Of coarse such rare stuff wont be cheap, fibreglass panels will start at £5000.
While Mr Saunders may claim he has parts from this aircraft all his are fake, I own it all, int tat rite gov?

Based on reported past experience, I would have my doubts. I believe that other posters to this thread either made or advocated the making of approaches to eBay, based upon the probability that this propellor was not what it was represented to be. Did those people, or others, make approaches to eBay? If so, to what effect? Can anyone say what criteria eBay employ – in practice, rather than in print – for assessing complaints of alleged misrepresentations by sellers? Does eBay simply require the text of the advertisement to be amended or, if this is not forthcoming, does it force the withdrawal of the advertisement? Does it, in extreme cases, withdraw the seller’s registration to prevent the person from further selling on eBay – and, if so, what are the circumatances in which it does so? This is something of a grey area for me but others may have more knowledge and experience of this.

Thanks, AA – my post was submitted before you edited yours for greater clarity. Sounds as though it is all a minefield for all but the intrepid and the knowledgable.

There will be a prize offered to the first person who finds this same propellor for sale at Shoreham.

The prize will be the tailwheel orf of the first Spitfire protytipe aeroplane mark one thingy. Definitely all original, and don’t beleeve dose idiots wot say it neva had a tailwheel cos it did much later and dis is da later one. All of the spokes are there and everything.

🙁 How extraordinary, taking account of the story of this lot. It sets a poor example, doesn’t it? Or is this exceptional?

Based on reported past experience, I would have my doubts. I believe that other posters to this thread either made or advocated the making of approaches to eBay, based upon the probability that this propellor was not what it was represented to be. Did those people, or others, make approaches to eBay? If so, to what effect? Can anyone say what criteria eBay employ – in practice, rather than in print – for assessing complaints of alleged misrepresentations by sellers? Does eBay simply require the text of the advertisement to be amended or, if this is not forthcoming, does it force the withdrawal of the advertisement? Does it, in extreme cases, withdraw the seller’s registration to prevent the person from further selling on eBay – and, if so, what are the circumatances in which it does so? This is something of a grey area for me but others may have more knowledge and experience of this.

AA – you deserve a commendation for having the patience to read his illiterate ramblings. But on a point of information will ebay ban this charlatan?

i r literate……….

Our politicians may be many things – but they are at least literate!

Bruce

With the amount of bull**** and nonsensical ramblings that bloke must be an Politician 😮