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The Welsh.

Right.
Here’s another to get you all overwrought and agitated.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232814/Ceredigion-primary-school-children-told-toilet-unless-ask-WELSH.html

No doubt the Daily Mail has exagerated as usual.
However, after listening to something on Radio 4 this afternoon about exports, I might ask why we are wasting the time of young people teaching them what is in effect a dead language anyway..?

The piece on R4 informed me that less than 2% of Britain’s total exports go to China, whereas our ‘EU partners’ the jolly old Germans manage nearer 10% and are looking to increase that figure.
Apparently they are willing to organise themselves better than we are. That of course includes learning Chinese languages and customs.

I might suggest that if we are to dig ourselves out of the current deep hole, then teaching Mandarin for future adults might be a better bet than something which apparently has no vowels, and no one other than the Welsh in Wales (a place I never go to by choice) speaks.

As ever, kick it around to your hearts content.
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By: TonyT - 17th November 2012 at 22:20

Argh Jim lad……..hahaha, 50 shades off ain’t happy 😀

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By: Andy in Beds - 17th November 2012 at 21:58

I’ve not heard that in a while.

I know it’s old but it was good then and still is.
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By: Lincoln 7 - 17th November 2012 at 21:54

If you honestly think that any company is going to turn away business from non-English speakers rather than make use of translators in the current economic climate, then you really can’t have been paying much attention for the past couple of years.

Oh…. and If you think a posting of mine constitutes trolling, Jim, then report it to the moderators instead of making snarky little hints.

(Stands by for the usual anguished protestations of innocence and incomprehension….. )

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By: Robbo - 17th November 2012 at 21:38

I’ve not heard that in a while.

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By: Andy in Beds - 17th November 2012 at 21:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJl5Vd_FK-M&feature=related

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By: kev35 - 17th November 2012 at 21:10

Oh, I see. Yow mean them uz cum ear am welcum ter muddle thru wi’out spaking the lingo but ar bay payin’ fer ’em ter cum ear ‘n learn ter spake proppa.

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By: Robbo - 17th November 2012 at 20:54

Could you explain that again using proper English for those of us from the Black Country please?

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Kev, I’ll attemp to translate:

Them of yows oo come ere are welcooom to muddle on without the lingo loik, but wees not payan for yows to spake proppa.

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By: kev35 - 17th November 2012 at 20:10

….. Those who come here are welcome to struggle as best they can without learning the language but should not be subsidised by us to help them get by without learning the language.

Could you explain that again using proper English for those of us from the Black Country please?

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By: Grey Area - 17th November 2012 at 20:02

Ah, right.

I misunderstood your meaning. 🙂

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By: charliehunt - 17th November 2012 at 19:37

So, you’re telling us that non-British people who come to live in this country should be compelled to speak and write English, but it’s a matter of personal choice as to whether British people who go to live in non-English speaking countries should learn the local lingo.

That’s a rather…… interesting policy.

No – perhaps I didn’t make my point clearly. It should be the same for any foreigner in any country. Those who come here are welcome to struggle as best they can without learning the language but should not be subsidised by us to help them get by without learning the language.

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By: Grey Area - 17th November 2012 at 19:20

If you honestly think that any company is going to turn away business from non-English speakers rather than make use of translators in the current economic climate, then you really can’t have been paying much attention for the past couple of years.

Oh…. and If you think a posting of mine constitutes trolling, Jim, then report it to the moderators instead of making snarky little hints.

(Stands by for the usual anguished protestations of innocence and incomprehension….. )

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By: Lincoln 7 - 17th November 2012 at 17:24

I didn’t THINK as you put it, I was agreeing with Tony.
Nice to see your up and running again.and still Fly Fishing;)
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By: Grey Area - 17th November 2012 at 17:18

I was talking to the manager of the branch, and it came out in conversation, that they have TEN interpreters for the 10 different nationalities who use the Bank.and who can be called upon at any time to help them with their banking needs.Nice to know my Income Tax helped to bail TSB out of the proverbial.So, I have to agree, “When in Rome” etc.
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So, your bank uses the services of a professional translation agency when the need arises.

That sounds like good, pragmatic business practice.

What point did you think you were making?

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By: Grey Area - 17th November 2012 at 17:13

Well, of course, it’s up to them.

So, you’re telling us that non-British people who come to live in this country should be compelled to speak and write English, but it’s a matter of personal choice as to whether British people who go to live in non-English speaking countries should learn the local lingo.

That’s a rather…… interesting policy.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 17th November 2012 at 17:13

To true, I would drop every other language on the forms bar English, they talk about integrating society, but what incentive is there for immigrants to learn the mother tongue of the Country they are now part of if you print everything in Urdu.. Arabic etc…

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Just to take your point a step further Tony, I visited the main branch of LLoyds TSB. I was talking to the manager of the branch, and it came out in conversation, that they have TEN interpreters for the 10 different nationalities who use the Bank.and who can be called upon at any time to help them with their banking needs.Nice to know my Income Tax helped to bail TSB out of the proverbial.So, I have to agree, “When in Rome” etc.
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By: charliehunt - 17th November 2012 at 17:02

:D:D

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By: Moggy C - 17th November 2012 at 17:00

I’ve always loved this one.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45162000/jpg/_45162744_-2.jpg

What was supposed to be the Welsh translation is actually an e-mail auto responder reply

“I am not in the office at the moment. Send any work to be translated”

And then…

http://www.south-wales.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/language-translation-fail-2.jpg

You’ve guessed it… “Pedestrians Look Right”

Then there’s

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/cyclists.jpg

Dymchwelyd may mean ‘dismount’ (among other things), but llid y bledren has nothing to do with cyclists — in fact, it means ‘bladder inflammation.’ The best guess among red-faced local officials is that someone accidentally entered cystitis instead of cyclists into an online English-to-Welsh translator.

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By: charliehunt - 17th November 2012 at 16:52

Well, of course, it’s up to them. I have spent a great deal of time in France and had a house there for several years and learnt the language many years ago. Many French are very courteous and speak English but you will get no help when dealing with French bureaucracy. No multi-lingual documents there!!

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By: Grey Area - 17th November 2012 at 16:46

Presumably you’d demand the same of British expats in Spain, France and Italy?

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By: charliehunt - 17th November 2012 at 16:42

I could not agree more strongly. If you choose to live in a foreign country you should learn the language and struggle to get by as you do. That way you’ll learn to get by very quickly!!

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