There's two kind of Harvard pilots……

btw – seriously –

perforated flaps are a new one on me…… regular mod?

TT

😡 :rolleyes: 😡 😡 :dev2: :diablo: 😮 🙁

Never!! you dont say, well bless me 😀

Now now – play nice!

Alex – where are these :confused: 😮 :diablo: 😡 😡 :diablo: :dev2: SEATS!

🙂 :rolleyes: !

TT

Harvard groundloop

G-BWUL/FT375 was groundlooped on May 20 at Rivanazzano Airport (close to Milan) after an air-display at the Avioexpo airshow. The Harvard is owned by Mr. Scaglia and is based at Brescia-Montichiari. I should have further details of the damage in a few days.

Regards,

Benno

Never!! you dont say, well bless me 😀

eheheh 😀

what is for sure is that if groundloopin a Tiger Moth is a s*it in yr pants experience, doing it with a T-6 must feel way way worse!!! The plane is so rocksteady and stable when taxiing that the last thing u expect it to do is a ground loop!
As I said eariler there are some planes that tend to groundloop more than others for various factors, the C-45 is one of them. My restoration buddy (who was instructor on the T-6 family) once was seating in the the back seat of a 45 while his airfield commander, who wanted to fly it at all costs, ground looped it while giving full throttle for take off! There must have been a lot of bad smell in that cockpit after that unexpected number..

Alex

ah ah, really funny… :rolleyes:

all the taildraggers can do a groundloop, some of them are more inclined to do it than others. The T-6 was a trainer, and not one of the easiest ones, especially for a pilot with 0 hours. It is still used today as a trainer for advanced warbirds, and that’s why sometimes here and there ground loops on T-6 pop out.
Alex

Never!! you dont say, well bless me 😀

What is happening to them Harvard’s will they be able to fly again.

Its sad when Warbirds crash land 🙁

James

the description on airliners.net about the harvard that belly landed says that’s already been fixed and is flyin again.
T-6s are really sturdy, this is not the first chap who lands on flaps and prop 😉
spares are (still) relatively easy to find too.

Alex

Perhaps this is ‘Standard Crosswind technique’ in Italy!

Still, could be worse

ah ah, really funny… :rolleyes:

all the taildraggers can do a groundloop, some of them are more inclined to do it than others. The T-6 was a trainer, and not one of the easiest ones, especially for a pilot with 0 hours. It is still used today as a trainer for advanced warbirds, and that’s why sometimes here and there ground loops on T-6 pop out. Bless the good ol’ T-6, nicknamed here in Italy “family father”, cuz he always brought its pilots back home, often in really critical conditions.

Alex

****** me Martin – we’re not letting you loose in ours then – Jinx!

:p

Best not….I once went through a phase where one week I would have a flight in an aeroplane and then a week later that very same aeroplane would have an accident. One was a Wassmer Europa and the other a Robin DR.400. Seemed my friends cottoned on and for a while, I didnt fly at all. But it was all pure fate, wasnt it?

Hey Mister can I have a flight in your aeroplane?

Martin

What is happening to them Harvard’s will they be able to fly again.

Its sad when Warbirds crash land 🙁

James

The answer is yes…..(probably)….spares are still available and in this day and age almost anything given lots of time and money can be rebuilt. A friend of mine suffered a very bad ground loop in a Harvard at Ostend and at first thought the airframe was a write-off but after a new wing was found (courtesy of an Harvard in Wales) and a new undercarriage, that same aeroplane is flying today.

Martin

As to the dreaded groundloop….well it happens at one stage or another in everyone’s Harvard careers. I have witnessed it first hand from the backseat on a number of occasions.

Martin

****** me Martin – we’re not letting you loose in ours then – Jinx!

:p

What is happening to them Harvard’s will they be able to fly again.

Its sad when Warbirds crash land 🙁

James

As there are still a number of Harvards around there must have been more than a few pilots who didn’t manage to destroy their aircraft, as the Blue Max said, it’s not compulsary!

I didnt mean anything to be taken for Gospel, but I was always told by the powers that be ‘that if it hasnt happened it will’. My Harvard time is very limited (35 hours) and only from the backseat, so perhaps I wasnt the best person to make a comment like that.

Apologies,

Martin

As there are still a number of Harvards around there must have been more than a few pilots who didn’t manage to destroy their aircraft, as the Blue Max said, it’s not compulsary!

Thats FT375 shown in the photo. Sold at a Sotherby’s Auction in the 90s and now I believe living in Italy. KF183 is still based at Boscombe Down with the A&AEE (or whatever its called these days).

As to the dreaded groundloop….well it happens at one stage or another in everyone’s Harvard careers. I have witnessed it first hand from the backseat on a number of occasions.

Martin

FT375 had the most interesting history, but KF183 is still plying her trade at the MoD airfield at Boscombe Down…the official name is ATEC – Aircraft Test & Evaluation Centre which is made up of a service element and a QinetiQ element.

What’s with the perforated flaps? T-6 dive bomber?!!

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As to the dreaded groundloop….well it happens at one stage or another in everyone’s Harvard careers. I have witnessed it first hand from the backseat on a number of occasions.

Martin[/QUOTE]

i dont think its complusary!! :p

Perhaps this is ‘Standard Crosswind technique’ in Italy!

Still, could be worse

Double ouch 😀

Perhaps this is ‘Standard Crosswind technique’ in Italy!

Still, could be worse

Thats FT375 shown in the photo. Sold at a Sotherby’s Auction in the 90s and now I believe living in Italy. KF183 is still based at Boscombe Down with the A&AEE (or whatever its called these days).

As to the dreaded groundloop….well it happens at one stage or another in everyone’s Harvard careers. I have witnessed it first hand from the backseat on a number of occasions.

Martin

Ouch! 😮