November 13, 2004 at 4:02 pm
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Regarding Submarine Incident:
China urges calm after Japan demands apology for submarine intrusion
http://www.spacewar.com/2004/041113100032.o4jk9abv.html
China on Saturday urged Japan to stay calm in solving
bilateral disputes a day after Tokyo demanded an apology for the intrusion
of a Chinese nuclear submarine into Japanese waters.
Comments:
And, the Imperial Japanese Army’s incursion into the whole of Asia
and its sneak attack at Pearl? Shouldn’t Japan apoligize for that as well???
Besides, that sub could belong to anyone. Here’s some suspicions:
– covert Taiwanese aquisitions enroute to home base in Island of Taiwan
– classified Russian inteligence gathering mission (monitoring of US-Japan excercise)
– possibly, even vessels of the USN because of North Korean nuke issues
I mean why would the Chinese need to dispatch
their prized Han’s for something like Japan when their expendable Ming’s is more
than sufficient to handle any crises in the region???
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By: Wanshan - 16th November 2004 at 22:19
they are based on sawari 2 and have a more advanced AAW capability than that ship
Those claims definitely make the article of dubious quality
By: hallo84 - 16th November 2004 at 21:57
How many Damn dogs appologised for the Massacare at Hiroshima and another Massacare at Nagasaki???….. can u count the number of Dogs and puppies????
That’s just BS…
the Imperial emperor decided and announced to fight till the last man had not been the nukes!
You should count your selves lucky!!! You really have to wonder why US choose nagasaki insteal of say Kyoto or Osaka???
how many people would have died then??? why??? all because of your foolishness. Anyways more people died when tokyo was bombed than all of hiroshima.
This shows what the Jap teach their kids in school…all a bunch of Bloody BS Jap kids believed that asian cuntries welcomed the japs to annix their countries for the greater good… (Kinda sad isn’t it? you think they did it for self pride or vanity?)
The Japanese Empire with Imperial Japanese Army, Navy or Airforce NEVER COLONISED OR INVADED ANY SOVERGIN ASIAN NATION!!!
What they invaded and attacked was the British, American and other European COLONIES, which threatened the Japanese Industrial needs from their natural markets.
Doh! i got to learn history again… it seems i’ve mistaken something called China as an independant or “SOVERGIN ASIAN NATION.” China could as well be a figment of my imagination, like those Marco Polo stories…or that Shangrila place
By: google - 16th November 2004 at 21:23
The article is small and makes some dubious claims. It says that all 30 boats could be in commision by 2018, that they are based on sawari 2 and have a more advanced AAW capability than that ship, so I rather doubt the reliability of this article.
30 boats by 2018 is nothing with the way they’ve been pumping out ships. I find it dubious that they’d still keep making 054s past 2010.
By: sealordlawrence - 16th November 2004 at 19:49
The article is small and makes some dubious claims. It says that all 30 boats could be in commision by 2018, that they are based on sawari 2 and have a more advanced AAW capability than that ship, so I rather doubt the reliability of this article.
By: edisonone - 16th November 2004 at 16:03
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My admirations to the Chinese for the cool and mature manner
for which they had handled this tiny tiny little incident. As promised, they did
investigated. And, as necessary, they did issued a formal apology.
China ‘sorry’ over mystery sub
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4015211.stm
The incident sparked a two-day chase by Japan’s navy
China has apologised for what it called an accidental incursion by one of its
submarines into Japanese waters last week, Tokyo has said.
A congenital rule of the sea we must expect every now and then, maybe???
A great big
to the Chinese for their courage.
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By: Wanshan - 16th November 2004 at 15:38
It could be a second unit of the ship design that we were speculating to be an OPV for Thailand. I don’t think it is one of the ships for Pakistan, but I may be wrong. As or PLAN ordering 30 Type 054, did the magazine say over what period of time? Could you post the article or at least summarize its content?
By: sealordlawrence - 16th November 2004 at 15:13
[B] Hi everybody, its my first post here. Does anybody know what the ship in the picture is? The stern dos not appear to match any of the Ships that the PLAN already has in service. The super structure that is being built certainly looks like it is going to be a helicopter hanger at the moment. The sides of the superstructure also appear to be clean with the hull which would suggest attempts at stealth as we have seen on the 052s and 054s. I wonder if this may be one of the F22p frigates for pakistan or another export boat? any ideas?
Also, the British magazine Warships IFR is reporting that the PLAN has ordered 30 units of the 054 class frigates.
By: edisonone - 16th November 2004 at 01:02
hmmmm…… k as u guys say …
but let me tell u guys i am not the one to support rape as institutional weapon, killing children and elderly and yes i on;t be the one to argue againt what ppl sufered at the hands of the japs, especially chinese. But i seldon get to se from those who have been voicing this moral high ground abt the opponents crime … don even mention the millions that were cleansed for a whiter manhatten …. thats pity guys really pity .. i don wanna go in length abt vietnam, now Irak, or the war which became necessary to cover-up the continental presidents affair with a 12 year girl child. … but got to see the ‘suffering’ hypocrisy …. hmmm…and edison when did the continental guys started thing abt the Asian suffering???…. do u dare to check out the background of wharev u live now?
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Damn…
Always knew I should have
selected Vulcanese or Klingon as a major rather
than the language of morality.
Pity!
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By: Wanshan - 15th November 2004 at 23:13
don even mention the millions that were cleansed for a whiter manhatten ….
As I recall, there were few if any people living in ‘manhattan’ when the Dutch settled there and founded New Amsterdam in the first quarter of the 17th century.
See also: History of New Amsterdam/New York
More in general, what you are suggesting is that one wrong cancels out – or rather legitimizes – another, which of course is ludicrous. An alternative interpretation is that you would say it is ok for yuo to jump of a cliff because others have jumped of a cliff as well.
By: Blackcat - 15th November 2004 at 18:55
hmmmm…… k as u guys say …
but let me tell u guys i am not the one to support rape as institutional weapon, killing children and elderly and yes i on;t be the one to argue againt what ppl sufered at the hands of the japs, especially chinese. But i seldon get to se from those who have been voicing this moral high ground abt the opponents crime … don even mention the millions that were cleansed for a whiter manhatten …. thats pity guys really pity .. i don wanna go in length abt vietnam, now Irak, or the war which became necessary to cover-up the continental presidents affair with a 12 year girl child. … but got to see the ‘suffering’ hypocrisy …. hmmm…
and edison when did the continental guys started thing abt the Asian suffering???…. do u dare to check out the background of wharev u live now?
By: edisonone - 15th November 2004 at 17:43
Congratulations Edisonmascot.
You do seem to have managed to drag the attention of the readers of this thread off the uncomfortable, for you, news that the Han was caught fingers-in-the-cookie-jar and on to something completely unrelated.
How lucky you are that the chip on Mr BlackCats shoulder is as deep and reliable as it is!.
😀 Wow!!! 😀 😀 😀
Made your day didn’t it? Were they
smelling for gas leaks, as charged??? What else is new
when it comes to the ChiComs 😀 ???
The one and only Edisonmascot :p .
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By: Jonesy - 15th November 2004 at 16:51
Congratulations Edisonmascot.
You do seem to have managed to drag the attention of the readers of this thread off the uncomfortable, for you, news that the Han was caught fingers-in-the-cookie-jar and on to something completely unrelated.
How lucky you are that the chip on Mr BlackCats shoulder is as deep and reliable as it is!.
By: edisonone - 15th November 2004 at 15:30
I don’t like jumping into Political pow-wows…..but I must say, what Blackcat said was shocking..!!! 😡 🙁
He obviously has no idea how much the Chinese and Koreans suffered under the Japanese. Suffering is not even the right word. It was a brutal (in extreme terms) occupation! 🙁 🙁 And these countries were never British colonies! (Except tinay parts like hongkong)
I don’t know who could justify what the Japanese did. Quite shameful…
To give you and Idea…..go search on this phrase “The Rape of Nanking”
I wonder if whether the quotes she gave
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4002289.stm
has anything to do with her eventual demise???
PS: :p
Strangely enough…
Where is all those mighty Dragon this
and Dragon that’s when and where their parts are
trully valued and where most needed???
😮 Ironic isn’t it :p :p ???
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By: Hyperwarp - 15th November 2004 at 04:37
I don’t like jumping into Political pow-wows…..but I must say, what Blackcat said was shocking..!!! 😡 🙁
He obviously has no idea how much the Chinese and Koreans suffered under the Japanese. Suffering is not even the right word. It was a brutal (in extreme terms) occupation! 🙁 🙁 And these countries were never British colonies! (Except tinay parts like hongkong)
I don’t know who could justify what the Japanese did. Quite shameful…
To give you and Idea…..go search on this phrase “The Rape of Nanking”
By: Jonesy - 15th November 2004 at 04:00
Hmmm Edison and BlackCat. What do you gentlemen think the group noun for persecution complex sufferers might be?. :rolleyes:
By: edisonone - 15th November 2004 at 01:32
first of all i hope its ur own comment, Or was it what the continental teachers brainwashed comments for the puppies …like they did for the Evil Soviets after the War.
So getting back to the Japanese stuff, Mr Edisonone.
The Japanese Empire with Imperial Japanese Army, Navy or Airforce NEVER COLONISED OR INVADED ANY SOVERGIN ASIAN NATION!!!
What they invaded and attacked was the British, American and other European COLONIES, which threatened the Japanese Industrial needs from their natural markets.
It happened when the European (inclusing the British started to come in the way of Japanes presence to their Natural area, and not the other way round.
Oh and coming to ur Japanes apology for Pearl Harbor. well have the Americans apologised for all the japanese ships and a/c lost after the Pearl harbor Incident, The japanese Carrier, their powerful cruisers???…. well no buddy….. u need to wake up dear ……. all this leaving alone what during the closing period of the war.
How many Damn dogs appologised for the Massacare at Hiroshima and another Massacare at Nagasaki???….. can u count the number of Dogs and puppies????
If not come back after counting, I’d be glad to have a chat with u.
Wow Wee 😀 !!!!
I think you’ve just gotten yourself a
handsfull here, providing of course, there’s enough Kemo Sabe’s
here in this board to put up the fight.
Good luck!!!!
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By: google - 15th November 2004 at 00:51
Are you daft Blackcat?
“The Imperial Japanese never invaded Asia; it is a lie, by those infidel Asians. Let the Asian infidels bask in their illusion as we greet them with our bullets and shoes. We will liberate them from their infidel materialism and pull of the West.”
By: Wanshan - 15th November 2004 at 00:17
Prozac anyone?
By: Hydropod - 14th November 2004 at 22:06
Japan invaded Korea, then China, Parts of Mongolia, tried to invade SU, invaded Phillipines… what more do you want? Don’t you dare walking in here and try to brush up the atrocities you Japs have created.
The wiping out of the city of Mudkin in 1895 is a fact, three hundred thousand murdered in Nanjing, hundreds of thousands of slave workers working under the threat of death, and tens of millons of civilians killed. Comfort woman who are made to become prostitutes for you IJA… the list of barbaric acts just goes on.
Woman and girls of all ages are all rape targets for your beasts, and then murdered, (Don’t you Japs ever have a sense of shame or a single grain of concience in raping and killing 10 year old girls or 70 year old granmas?) man and boys used as bayonet practice targets, even babies are killed. How can you Japs call yourself human?
MONSTERS, PERVERTS AND A RACE OF BARBARIANS YOU JAPS ARE!
DON”T YOU DARE TRY TO COVER FOR THOSE PERVERTED MURDERERS!!! THE 35 MILLION DEAD LOOKS AT YOU! YOU TRY TO COVER THEM, THEN THEIR BLOOD IS ALSO ON YOUR HANDS!
And for those died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, don’t try to portray yourself as victims, as Japs like to do. You sow the seeds, you WILL reap the whirlwind.
The only people I would mourn who died in those blasts are the USAAF POWs who were collateral damages. The only regret is that no more nukes fall on you Japs before you put your tail between your legs, kowtowed and begged for forgiveness from the “western barbarians”.
The rest of the Japs? I would not shed a single tear for them and I would celebrate the death of each and every one of them, wishing them each a long, slow and painful death in that nuclear rain. Their fathers, sons are killing innocents in other places, their wifes and daughters are helping the evil war machine of Japan. Call that the revenge for all those who suffered from you Japs in the 60 years of war, suppression, murder and pillage against other Asian-Pacific nations! Well done USA!
By: Bucko - 14th November 2004 at 19:57
The Japanese Empire with Imperial Japanese Army, Navy or Airforce NEVER COLONISED OR INVADED ANY SOVERGIN ASIAN NATION!!!
Err… China was a sovereign asian nation. And it was invaded by the japanese empire first. I seriously can’t believe someone is defending their actions.