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They're big…and they are North Korean but what are they

Before anyone complains this is a munition question…what are they… :confused: I know they are KPA but what are they called and what are they capable of firing???

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By: sealordlawrence - 6th September 2006 at 23:38

It was just a rumour Sealord, there were various claims in old books that the Kunsan could fire nuke and chemical warheads, if the tech to do this is not available in North Korea then fair enough. Still the ability of these artillery pieces to fire chemical weapons which I believe the KPA does have still makes them a serious threat to the South.

Chemical and biological weapons almost certainly, but not nukes. There overall level of threat is actually quite limited due to their relatively short range and slow rate of fire as well as vulnerability to airstrikes once they have fired and revealed their positions. Not to mention the south korean armys NBC gear.

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By: worthyone - 6th September 2006 at 22:58

It was just a rumour Sealord, there were various claims in old books that the Kunsan could fire nuke and chemical warheads, if the tech to do this is not available in North Korea then fair enough. Still the ability of these artillery pieces to fire chemical weapons which I believe the KPA does have still makes them a serious threat to the South.

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By: sealordlawrence - 6th September 2006 at 20:47

There hasn’t been a report saying North Korean long-range tubed guns have been pulled from service. They’ve got two versions of 170mm gun in service, code-marked M-1978 and M-1989, both based on old T-54/55/59 chassis.

The SPH in the pic is said to be 130mm SM-4-1 coastal gun mounted on modified/improved Soviet gun tractor chassis called Dokchun.

I have read reports saying they have but if they are then so be it but it does not change the fact that they can not fire nukes.

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By: KJlost - 6th September 2006 at 20:35

There hasn’t been a report saying North Korean long-range tubed guns have been pulled from service. They’ve got two versions of 170mm gun in service, code-marked M-1978 and M-1989, both based on old T-54/55/59 chassis.

The SPH in the pic is said to be 130mm SM-4-1 coastal gun mounted on modified/improved Soviet gun tractor chassis called Dokchun.

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By: sealordlawrence - 6th September 2006 at 19:49

Probably gonna be abswering my own question here (partially at least) but the howitzer looks like it might be the M1986, a KPA copy of the M109 capable of firing nukes into the RoK…(Designation M1986 might be wrong). May be a piece of junk compared to US and other Western systems like the South Korean K-9 Thunder but if it can fire nukes (and I believe these things are what sit right on the DMZ…right???) I doubt the US, UN or RoK could get them all before they hit Seoul!!!
The MLRS…new to me!!! Another pic…

Where did you get the information about north krean artillery being able to fire nukes becouse it is wrong. Firstly the NK bomb making technology is not sufficiently advanced to be able to produce such small warheads and secondly the largest gun they have ever operated was 170mm called Koksun- it has reportedly been removed from service. Finally the NK nuke count is very small, probably still single figures with warheads like in storage or sitting on top of ballistic missiles.

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By: Wanshan - 6th September 2006 at 17:32

240MM ROCKET LAUNCHER M-1985
240MM ROCKET LAUNCHER M-1991

The North Koreans have produced two different 240mm rocket launchers, the 12 round M-1985 and 22 round M-1991. The M-1985 rocket pack is easily identified as it has 2 rows of 6 tubes and is mounted on a cab behind engine chassis. The M-1991 is mounted on a cab over engine chassis. Both launch packs could be adapted to any suitable heavy cross-country truck.

Further details, see: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/m-1985-mrl.htm

The SPGH may be the M-1974 152mm SP
Some detail here: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/dprk-arty.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/images/m1974%20dprk%20cdf%20001.jpg

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By: worthyone - 5th September 2006 at 23:25

Probably gonna be abswering my own question here (partially at least) but the howitzer looks like it might be the M1986, a KPA copy of the M109 capable of firing nukes into the RoK…(Designation M1986 might be wrong). May be a piece of junk compared to US and other Western systems like the South Korean K-9 Thunder but if it can fire nukes (and I believe these things are what sit right on the DMZ…right???) I doubt the US, UN or RoK could get them all before they hit Seoul!!!
The MLRS…new to me!!! Another pic…

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By: muessigbrod - 5th September 2006 at 23:03

As for the second picture, I’d say its nothing sophisticated … seems like a T 54/55 chassis on which they mounted a 122/152 mm cannon … manual loading by unprotected crew … about 30 years behind state-of-the art.

My personal opinion, of course.

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