The picture is from the Nhungdoicanh blog. There, it is among the ones for the Fokker F.VII. But the protruding windshield shows me this must be a Fokker C-2. While for the latter, I never could find a picture with cowled engines.
Who knows an explanation?
Thank you!:)
Regards, RT
By: Romantic Techno - 16th April 2011 at 17:21
With this forum I am always happy, even if my hobby sometimes drives me crazy. But thank you for asking, Wilkofife. Of course I am thankful for all the work Archer showed here, and for Mr. Aeroclubs comments. But I am still not completely sure how to correctly label my picture.:o:(
Regards, RT
By: Archer - 15th April 2011 at 08:14
For reference (from the links I posted above):
Fokker F.VIIa-3m:
Original Dutch built F.VIIa-3m.
Fokker (U.S) C-2:
Based on the Dutch F.VIIa-3m but modified with wider fuselage and different cockpit position
Fokker (U.S.) C-2A:
C-2 with a longer wingspan and other small changes. Last four aircraft had the wing engines moved further outboard to solve flutter problems.
Fokker (U.S.) C-7A (?):
The last C-2A was modified with three 330hp Wright R-975 engines to become the C-7A. The fin change could be related to the higher powered engines. But compare this image to the next one:
Fokker (U.S.) F-10A:
Listed as an ‘upgraded’ F7, but it is unclear whether this means that it evolved from the Dutch F.VII family or a U.S. built/designed derivative (note that Dutch designs use Roman numerals while U.S. types don’t). To confuse the issue the C-2 was known as the ‘model 7’ by Fokker.
Looking at the cockpits I’m not sure that the C-7A image shown here is correct either, it looks more like an F-10 than the C-2 it is supposedly derived from. On the ‘C-7A photo’ the cockpit is obviously different (further back than on the C-2(A)). Comparing these photos with the two images in the first post and this one from wilkofife I’d say that the NACA cowled aircraft is a modified C-2(A). It might even be the C-7A, which is substantiated by wilkofife‘s image in the second post.
It is listed at NACA Langley as a ‘Atlantic Fokker C-2 (AC 28-123)’. If that is the serial, perhaps it will show up in a production list somewhere?
By: Archer - 13th April 2011 at 14:59
Also please bear in mind that the F.VII is a Dutch built and designed aircraft, while this is a U.S. built and (partly) designed aircraft. The two factories were somewhat independent with the U.S. component building derived versions of the F.VII design.
Edit: There’s a pretty comprehensive list of civil Fokker’s here: http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Civil/index5-2%20Fokker%20Civil%20Aircrafts.html and the military ones are here: http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/index5/Military/index5-1%20Fokker%20Military%20Aircrafts.html. On both pages the U.S. built ones are at the bottom right of the page. Unfortunately the cowled version is not shown.
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April 12, 2011 at 9:22 am