Thunderbirds grounded effective April 1st.

Oh dear ! There is certainly more than a passing influence on every administration from the Jewish community in the U.S ! Try getting any kind of condemnation of the settlement policy in the West Band from the U.S government !

As for the gun control debate -there isn’t any gun control that is meaningful and effective -witness the BBC reporter buying an assault rifle in Texas with checks
that astonish most.

As for it being a different country -no its different countries within one .

Lindoug ! -I think there are a lot more people involved in the U.S political process than meets the eye!

And the UK is free from corruption, scandals, pressure from various specuial intereast groups…:diablo:

Can the mods put this in the General Discussion forum..it’s lasped into a situation similar to the thread on theUS gun ciontrol debate…where a group of non-US people are upset that the US isn’t just like their homeland.

Here’s a hint: It’s a dfifferent country.:D
Many can’t seem to accept that. They can somewhat understand that Australia is differnt from the UK, so is France and Italy…but they expect American and Americans to be just like the UK. 😀

And extremely powerful religious groups!

More of a European myth than fact.
If anytghing, the current administration is viewed by same as more secular and “anti-religion” than most others of both parties.

I bet dear Gerry Anderson is turning in his grave.

Lindoug ! -I think there are a lot more people involved in the U.S political process than meets the eye!

You might as well add the corporations as another branch of U.S government!

And extremely powerful religious groups!

I think its safe to say they won’t be at Legends…I think airshows are the least of our problems, good thing we still have baseball 🙂

jim

This is all political posturing. There were no *cuts*, all that happened is that there wasn’t an increase in spending.. so how did they manage to attend all these airshows before?
The same govt that is doing all this bogus *cutting* BS is the same one that has added 2300 new jobs since the *cuts* took place..

If the USA is that broke then why bother with an airforce at all.

Nah! Only $16,689,205,000,000 in debt and increasing at about $100,000 a minute, so nothing they can’t handle…..

hampden98, you seem to be missing the point entirely.

The whole point of this exercise is to be seen to be cutting non-essential expenditure. Many civilian employees employed by the armed services are being laid off without pay. The military have obviously decided to make a political point by cutting the most public manifestation of their activities, whilst protecting the combat effectiveness of their forces. Therefore, all support for airshows, flyovers of sporting events, etc is being suspended whilst sequestration is in effect.

It has nothing to do with not being able to afford an air force, nothing to do with ‘bean counters shuffling money about’ (whatever that is supposed to mean). It is a decision by the top echelons in each of the armed forces as to where they will make cutbacks to non-essential activities.

Is flying a few aircraft at an airshow really that expensive?
The crews who fly these aircraft will presumably still be flying, and still costing the public. The ground crews still employed. The support vehicles still used. The display aircraft may be mothballed but these pilots will still be flying something. The mothballed aircraft will still be serviced, tested, cycled to ensure they don’t go wrong. Aren’t these costs just a continual thing regardless of whether you actual use them or not. Flying at an airshow just means the aircraft are offsite rather than on base?
Sounds like bean counters shuffling money about to me.
If the USA is that broke then why bother with an airforce at all.

I don’t think those countries with large debts and growing defecits and low growth need any doors opening, do they…??:(

So, dare one say – the Thunderbirds are not go. 😀

GROAN LOL. It does open the door for other countries now to say enough is enough.
Quite a statement from the most powerful nation in the world [well supposed to be ].

So, dare one say – the Thunderbirds are not go. 😀

And Anon, the president is NOT in charge, even though he thinks he is, that is why there are three distinct branches with the US govt. legislative, executive and judicial.

You might as well add the corporations as another branch of U.S government!

No, just the Banks as the Financial Branch (centered in the Federal Reserve System, with its 12 Financial Districts, each controlled by its own Federal Reserve Bank). They control the Corporations anyway, by controlling monetary policy and the flow of money.

You also need to split the legislature into two branches, as even when the same party controls both the Senate and the House of Representatives they seldom agree on anything without a lot of arm-twisting!

So you could say that just as the Pentagon is the home of the 5 Military Services (USA, USN, USMC, USCG, & USAF), so too is the government a 5-sided beast.

The 5-pointed star (or pentagram?) should represent the Executive, Legislative Part A, Legislative Part B, Judicial, & Financial branches of the US government.

Hmmm… the US as a person, with the Banks and the Courts as the legs supporting everything else, the two Houses of Congress the arms (flailing about), and the President the head attempting to co-ordinate the others.

Right now we are having a bit of issue with epileptic seizures, but hopefully the Doctor (the American People) can figure out some course of treatment to stabilize and control the problem.

I live about 7 miles from Waddo (about 4nm as the crow flies) and I have to say it’s the first aero team I’ve ever seen who orbited for another flypast from behind my house. I saw them the next day at the show and couldn’t believe how loose their show was. Not meaning that the formations weren’t tight or anything but they took ages to reform, unlike the Reds who do it all more or less stage front.

I’m connected with Waddo and you wouldn’t believe the rider the team arrive with……..it’s another world.

I suppose they might qualify as Historic – as in of or from the past?

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Waddington 2011

Fantastic “typically American” all action and noise…could have done without the commentator though.

You might as well add the corporations as another branch of U.S government!

And Anon, the president is NOT in charge, even though he thinks he is, that is why there are three distinct branches with the US govt. legislative, executive and judicial.

The last budget the president sent to congress the ENTIRE senate rejected as a joke. The senate itself has failed to bring a budget for consideration for about 4 yrs. now, (even though it is required by law) Since a budget must be approved by both the house and the senate if one or the other produces no budget nothing happens.

As to this whole budget cut BS,, the “cuts” are cuts in future growth NOT in the budget itself. All these cuts are being done to produce as much visible damage as possible to scare the US public not to push for any more cuts.

And i agree woth Tony T, but he is being far more generous and forgiving than I would be.