November 28, 2003 at 5:04 pm
Following on from the Lancman-baiting discusson,here’s a picture of the RAFM’s Hawker Typhoon MN235,taken from Airliners.net. Original piccy by ‘TZaviation’. I’m not quite sure what the benefit of this style of display is meant to be…
By: Hatton - 29th November 2003 at 12:16
John,
http://www.geocities.com/casahistoria_2000/photo.htm
There is a picture here of the Museum of Peace Typhoon.
Its a model or replica although im not sure if it is 1:1 scale.
Others will know im sure
best regards, steve
By: Moggy C - 29th November 2003 at 10:38
Having seen the picture I must say I have no problem with them displaying the Typhoon like this.
It is easily reversible after all.
Still doesn’t make it work for the Lanc though π
Moggy
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th November 2003 at 07:42
‘Bearing in mind this is the only complete example in the world’
I don’t know if I was seeing a mirage or not but I recall seeing a suspended Typhoon from the ceiling of The Museum of Peace at Caen, Normandy in 1998
By: Flood - 29th November 2003 at 00:49
Right, I know it is the sole survivor and all thatβ¦ But what is the paint scheme meant to represent? She never saw RAF service and yet she has been given invasion stripes but no symbolic squadron codes? The Tempest TT5 has been painted in a scheme she wore in service β much to the annoyance of many (not I) β and I believe that most of the other airframes wear their original schemes; so what is the idea with the Typhoon?
Flood.
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th November 2003 at 00:07
Originally posted by coanda
putting the aircraft like this provides a very effective way of applying pressure along the top rear of the aircraft….not somthing i would like to be doing.
Surely that would be the case if she was standing on her wheels anyway? The weight of the airframe is still being transmitted downwards through the three axles, and even standing on her wheels, she’d still have a torsional load on the underside of the fuselage and a compressional load along the top. Even when flying, the saame loads would be exterted as both the wings and tailplane generate lift.
By: coanda - 28th November 2003 at 23:55
if there is a huge problem with fluids, drain em, they were made to be drained…..putting the aircraft like this provides a very effective way of applying pressure along the top rear of the aircraft….not somthing i would like to be doing.
coanda
By: Arabella-Cox - 28th November 2003 at 23:22
I’m just delighted that, for the first time in my memory, it’s possible to get a full side on view of her. Bearing mind she’s a unique survivor of such an important type, she’s spent far too long wedged in amongst god knows what else. At least now she’s visible.
By: Shorty01 - 28th November 2003 at 22:27
Maybe it’s to do with the “fluids”. No, I haven’t been watching too much Dr Strangelove. If the a/c is in long term storage could it be that any lubricants/hydraulics or inhibiting fluids place less pressure on one part of a system when the a/c is level than if allowed to collect at one end when it has it’s tail on the ground.
A more likely explaination is that if you look at the a/c around it in the photo they are all tricycle undercarriaged, i.e. “On the level”. Maybe they feel putting it on display this way makes for a better comparison. Doesn’t explain the lanc though…..
Anyway, I quite like it. I was expecting to see it stuck up a pole from the thread title.
By: Yak 11 Fan - 28th November 2003 at 21:51
Originally posted by SE5AFAN
What are they on at the RAF museum?:mad:
Errrrrrrm, ………….. a perch????:p π
By: Dez - 28th November 2003 at 18:47
Perched!
I reckon that looks alright!!! π
I man in the cockpit would be good though!
π
By: Merlin3945 - 28th November 2003 at 18:29
Well I only know one surefire way of finding out why the tiffie is perched up like this and that is to contact the RAF museum direct for a statement.
Although perhaps it could be suggested that it is to reduced the pressure on the forward facing undercart forks. After all these birds were meant for the air and not sitting about an airfield. So doesnt it go to show that there must be a hell of a strain on the structure that the cart sits on.
Only a guess and probably completely wrong.
By: Bluebird Mike - 28th November 2003 at 18:20
Well as I’ve related here before, Hendon told me that the Lanc display was supposed to represent the aircraft landing, and to give Joe Public ‘a better view of the c**kpit’.
Crammed in with other aircraft, bomb doors open, main wheels sat in ‘shoes’, who are they trying to kid? And the ‘sky’ projection that used to be located immediately behind the aircraft fooled no one, even when it WAS there. (Which it hasn’t been, for years)
Also, you see no more of the c**kpit in this attitude at all. I know I make light of my annoyance with ‘the perch’ on here, and allow fellow members a giggle at my expense too, but really, I think such a half-ar*sed display is pretty demeaning to what is supposed to be one of the museum’s premier aircraft.
Cr*p, cr*p, cr*p.
Grrrrr! π‘
By: SE5AFAN - 28th November 2003 at 17:33
Bearing in mind this is the only complete example in the world you would think they would treat her with more respect.
Mabye this is to represent some kind of flying attitude, with static prop and wheels down I think not.
Then again I suppose we are lucky to have her.
And of course as you say MDF there is no pilot.
By: MDF - 28th November 2003 at 17:29
Saw this display the other day, it looked quite effective but would have been better if the canopy was closed and a Pilot figure in the cockpit. I think it’s good to see museums try a different angle. I’ve seen the Tiffie ‘parked’ a number of times and felt the current display gave a better impression of it’s clean lines & (ugly?) rad cowl. π
By: Bluebird Mike - 28th November 2003 at 17:17
Nice new carpet!
Utterly useless display though-first Sugar, now this babe; what IS the bl**dy point?
By: SE5AFAN - 28th November 2003 at 17:07
What are they on at the RAF museum?:mad: