TIGHAR Announce 99.9% certain bones were Earhearts

I think what happens next might answer this announcement, will he draw a line under it now and say job done or still go back looking for the remains of the aircraft, if they are that sure the bones are identified, they have no need to continue, course the remains of Noonan are not accounted for

Jantz got the data for his bones reanalysis from TIGHAR. His reanalysis is only as good as the data he got.

But if TIGHAR were to have doctored the data to get the ‘right’ result then surely TIGHAR must have been intimate with the, presumably complex, analysis of the raw data to get the results that they wanted?

A related matter…”his” photoanalyst also aided RG in finding rivet lines to aid his argument about the mysterious window patch trying to make an aluminum scrap found on the island fit the Electra and more (in)famously, analyzed the old Bigfoot film and called it good.
Make of that what you will.

Jantz got the data for his bones reanalysis from TIGHAR. His reanalysis is only as good as the data he got.

TIGHAR – Gillespie – has a vested interest in getting as much mileage out of the Earhart mystery as possible.

Gillespie has a history of overselling various items as having “solved” the Earhart mystery, or if they a proven to have nothing to do with it, with minimizing or ignoring them. Gillespie has a history of only using one photoanalyst, and has never, to my knowledge, submitted that analyst’s results to outside, third-party analysis for verification or disapproval.

Which removes yet another important safeguard in the process, and, to me, calls into question this entire exercise on TIGHAR’s part.

I do wonder if this poor scientist has had his findings or wording twisted to suit Tighars goal

It does seem like the actions of someone feeling a little cornered. There is SO little information on which to base any claims, as we have all seen for so long. Some years ago I was asked to attend a seminar at Hendon as representing a magazine (not hard to work out). This was run by Tighar and I remember being quite disturbed by the attitudes of the Gillespies. It was clear that evidence was being proactively interpreted, as we have seen report of time and time again, and that his attitude to anything else was basically ‘you are wrong’. I spoke with the magazine later and decided I would not write a report. I do remember discussion of whether corrosion on static aircraft was part of their patina! I was very unimpressed.

Exactly. The “99%” quote sounds more like a salesman than scientist, leading me to suspect it originated with RG.

Hypothetical situation….A scientist gets his data from a group/person with a vested financial interest in the outcome.
The findings are what the data provider has been pitching for years.
It is at odds with other scientific finding from researchers presumably without a financial interest in the outcome.

Would you unquestioningly trust the scientist’s report?
Discuss.

They were then sent for analysis in British Fiji, where Dr David Winn Hoodless took measurements before the bones were lost.

I am no scientist, but I find it somewhat incredible that Dr Jantz is stupid enough to attach his name to this “discovery”. Not only did the “facts” come via a party with a vested interest, they are measurements only, not actual bones. He runs the risk of bringing ridicule upon himself and the University of Tennessee.

Well, I am rather more than 99.9% certain that Gillespie has a serious mental health problem (rather a lot more in fact). He has been increasingly doing a very good impression of someone who is as big a fool as he thinks everyone else is.

Do children edit the Daily Mail now?

I think children have been editing it for many years now, and I think have spread into many other media news organisations too 🙁

Finally, a media report we can trust…:)

https://www.theonion.com/report-human-bones-found-on-remote-pacific-island-most-1823623725

Perhaps, but cynicism here won’t hurt the “group”. He’s looking for the aviation-naive..and people who won’t ask logical follow-on questions…like how the Lockheed, AE and FN all disappeared in the week between the supposed landfall and the U.S. Navy’s arrival.

One thing I note is that despite the media repetition of the claim the overwhelming mood across the aviation forums is pure scepticism. Perhaps he has gone to the well once too often.

I don’t suppose anyone in the media will make that connection.

I wonder if anyone in the scientific community will point that out…or will they just shrug their shoulders?
I’d suspect most reputable researchers in that field have heard and seen this before from TIGHAR and don’t want to waste their time refuting their claims.

Personally I think TIGHAR are expressing doubt – they claim it’s only 99.9% certain. In the past they have always been more positive claiming 99.99%. 😀

Another problem is that from the acknowledgements it is clear that Mr Gillespie had major input into the paper. Given that Earhart is his livelihood could this constitute conflict of interest?

J Boyle said, “I wonder if this claimed success isn’t a ill-considered scheme of the group?

Simply, if they’ve told everyone they’re right (and the soft-quoted “case closed”) why would anyone stick around to make estate and horse feed payments?”

I had not thought of it that way, but you’re right – Gillespie may well have shot himself in the foot in his single-minded desire to always, always, always be right. If people consider 99.9% “case closed,” why would anyone give him another penny to go back to Nikumaroro? There would no longer be a logical or reasonable, let alone sane, reason to do so. Hmmmmm …

I wonder if this claimed success isn’t a ill-considered scheme of the group?

Simply, if they’ve told everyone they’re right (and the soft-quoted “case closed”) why would anyone stick around to make estate and horse feed payments?

You might enjoy this juxtaposition from my Facebook feed.

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Now picked up by the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43323944

under the story it says “Why you can trust BBC News”!

Is it possible that Tighar are feeling the critic’s pressure and that this might be a convenient point to use Dubya’s immortal ‘job done’?

Do children edit the Daily Mail now?

Now that’s an insult to children. Even they wouldn’t churn out the arrant nonsense that is the staple fare of this comic for adults. It seems to want to beat the Sunday Sport at its own game!