Time to renovate some Shackletons ?

That being said, there will be countless future situations where a Nimrod would be invaluable.Just need to farm out RAF SAR now and that’s just about the final nail in the coffin.

It’s already happening or hadn’t you heard? It’s been ongoing for 12 – 18 months now.

Actually, I thought there was nothing wrong with the 1950s airframe…

…it was the ‘systems’ that caused all the problems.

The thing that really shocked me about the search for the missing yacht crew was that once the search aircraft were in the approximate area of the Atlantic Ocean the ‘search’ seemed to consist entirely of the crew looking out of the windows!

Funny that’s the take I got on the demise of the MR4.
I guess that the looking out of the window would be because een with a radar reflector a yacht made of composite materials would be hard to pick out from surface clutter giving spurious returns

all of the equipment in the Nimrod R1s must have still been in good nick?

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I’m sure that there is a variety of locator beacon that can be attached to a floating vessel and when that vessel sinks is automatically detached and broadcasts on 121.5 and 406 MHz. I believe that submarines are so equipped. The beacon is fitted with a drogue to slow down drift.

I haven’t heard of them attached to aircraft.

No, the only thought that has occurred to me is only if I could come up with a device that sends out a distress call, can still do it in great depths of water and doesn’t run out of battery just before possible rescue/or finding of ones mortal remains.

Of course the stylish way to go with maritime reconnaissance is the Kawasaki PX !

Or we could buy an airframe which is still in production after 60 years. LM are pushing it under the MODs nose.
The Canadians and US Coast Guard use them..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGM9ldHcgM
mmitch.

My thinking is that the RJ was still in production. Modification would have been far easier than the redesign of an aircraft that was already a redesign of a Comet. Couple that with a wide fuselage that is far more accomodating and you have an aircraft that is exportable and affordable.

New build would have been using an airframe design that was still 1950’s in its origin ! There was nothing wrong with the systems -it needed to go in a new design airframe or something that was a littler newer – the AVRO RJ for example !

I’m interested to know why the Avro RJ would have made a better platform than new build Nimrods? What is your thinking behind that? (seriuous question)

During the MH370 search, the primary difference between the MPAs and the bizjets with trained civvy volunteers appeared to be that the MPAs had the optics to evaluate possible ‘raw’ debris sightings more quickly and easily. If you have a expected search target with a detectable radar reflection, the approach changes somewhat.

Note that the oldest airframes in the MH370 Indian Ocean search (the RNZAF Orions from the early 1960’s) had some of the best equipment, having received two major avionics updates (the second having just being completed).

That being said, there will be countless future situations where a Nimrod would be invaluable.Just need to farm out RAF SAR now and that’s just about the final nail in the coffin.

The thing that really shocked me about the search for the missing yacht crew was that once the search aircraft were in the approximate area of the Atlantic Ocean the ‘search’ seemed to consist entirely of the crew looking out of the windows!

I guess that if there are no locator beacons working, then there is not much else you can do?

Actually, I thought there was nothing wrong with the 1950s airframe…

…it was the ‘systems’ that caused all the problems.

The thing that really shocked me about the search for the missing yacht crew was that once the search aircraft were in the approximate area of the Atlantic Ocean the ‘search’ seemed to consist entirely of the crew looking out of the windows!

New build would have been using an airframe design that was still 1950’s in its origin ! There was nothing wrong with the systems -it needed to go in a new design airframe or something that was a littler newer – the AVRO RJ for example !

New build MRA4, like it should have been in the first place would be better.

Another US aircraft when we cancel our own then shut the flaming factory (Woodford) We haven’t come very far since the TSR2 debacle have we ? Take an envious look at the US aerospace industry.

In fairness without recovering the boat the chain of events is speculation regarding the boat loss . I believe a P.8 will be at Waddington and Farnborough -I forsee RAF examples in the near future.

From what I’ve see and read, those people didn’t last long at all. Even a supersonic search plane wouldn’t have helped. R.I.P.

Those Nimrods they scrapped with undue haste would have done nicely.

Anon.

How are the two Shackletons in Cyprus? 😀