Tomahawk equivalent

what about the reports on the downing of tomawaks by gecko missiles? i have heard this years ago but nothing about the source that claiming this and the facts that proofs this downings.

It’s common knowledge that the SA-8 GECKO has anti-cruise missile capability, AFAIK.

what about the reports on the downing of tomawaks by gecko missiles? i have heard this years ago but nothing about the source that claiming this and the facts that proofs this downings.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/FutureTech/futuretech030117.html

well then Tomahawks are no more land fired. the GLCM is extinct. the boeing ALCM and Tomahawk SLCM are around now. SS-N-21 Sampson is the Ru equivalent, naval Scalp on Sylver A53 will be EU weapon

I think Harry is after surface launched cruise missiles.

I need not mention the mighty KH-55 ALCM with its 3000km range and even longer
range versions. A couple of these were fired last year by Bears/Blackjacks flying direct from Russia to over the indian ocean and targeted at a indian test range.

the Omsk design bureau makes its turbofan engine. A high thrust, small size, fuel efficient turbofan engine is the key to good CMs. germany has purchased a Williams engine for the Taurus.

India developing it’s Lakshya PTA into a cruise missile. Reported to have a range of 600kms and powered by the turbojet PTAE 7.

interesting point u raised….that is worth noting..since technically even a JDAM can be brought down by a SAM.

Tomahawk is good. It does provide distraction that ( combined with all the players : TALD decoys, steath jets, JASSM ( and ER ) , SLAM-ER, new, modern SEAD / DEAD methods etc etc etc ) a conventional air defense setup can get overwhelmed. That is the important thing: That there are so many players that joe air force with some jets and SAMs ends up getting rolled back until it is made useless inside of 24 hours or so. There probably won’t be an air plan like Allied Force 1999 again ( the last of the old way of doing air plans ) because netcentric warfare and all weather PGMs are now a staple product. So in all that: Tomahawk is just one of many net centric team players.

Of interest is a project that is funded to take 4 Ohio class boomers and have them converted to carry 154 Tomahawks and 60 some SEALs.

After work on the USS Ohio (SSBN-726) begins in October 2003, the plan calls for the eventual conversion of three additional Ohio-class boats, USS Michigan (SSBN-727), USS Florida (SSBN-728) and USS Georgia (SSBN-729). Each of the four submarines will undergo approximately four years of modifications and nuclear refueling. Completion of the conversion is projected for 2008, with the USS Ohio delivered in 2007.

Navy Embarks on Key Submarine Conversion

Four Former Missile Subs to Provide Tactical Missile, Special Ops Support

Graphic artwork of sub setup:
http://www.jinsa.org/documents/200303/1958.gif

DOD Administrative / Funding roadmap for this project (<— dated 2002 but it is pretty much a done deal on the funding now )

Well what about the Russian S-10 Granat (NATO SS-N-21 Sampson), which is near as dammit a clone of the Tomahawk?

True, but all of the GLCM systems have gone with the INF treaty. The missile however is probably still fitted to some SSNs, or could be if required.

Even airdefences that are considered a little obsolete these days like SA-8 are fully capable of bringing down Tomahawks… the Tomahawk is great against thin defences and in eventhe strongest defence a few might get through but we only ever see the video from those that hit targets cleanly… never from the ones that miss or more disturbingly the ones that hit but show innocent people on the bridge or other target being hit…

yes

Warheads: Block II TLAM-N – W80 nuclear warhead

i havnt seen the pic of the chinese..but at that size the tomahawk is combat prooven and quite a bit have been launched……i think range and warhead as well as accuracy are more important…rather then size the T hawk uses a F415 cruise turbo-jet engine which gives it a cruising speed of around 550mph..that sacrifice has to be made for that range.. i guess..Length: 18 feet 3 inches (5.56 meters); with booster: 20 feet 6 inches (6.25 meters)
Weight: 2,900 pounds (1,315.44 kg); 3,500 pounds (1,587.6 kg) with booster
Diameter: 20.4 inches (51.81 cm)
Wing Span: 8 feet 9 inches (2.67 meters)

being smaller also has advantages for the navy

It doesn’t look that big. The Chinese version looks huge! BTW can a nuke be strapped onto the cruise missile?

yeah but fixed targets remain there..and i dont think that moving targets would be attacked by the tomahawk..like asking the navy to attack saddam’s palace without having to send in the air force etc…..they are as expensive or less expensive then the BVR missiles sold in the west..etc..here i found out 2 new varients they are working on

Tomahawk® Block IV (Tactical Tomahawk™, TLAM-E

the next generation Tomahawk® cruise missile adds the capability to reprogram the missile while in-flight to strike any of 15 pre-programmed alternate targets or redirect the missile to any Global Positioning System (GPS) target coordinates. It also will be able to loiter over a target area, and with its on-board camera, will allow the warfighting commanders to assess target battle damage. The first launch of the Block IV Tomahawk® from an operational surface ship equipped with the Tactical Tomahawk™ Weapon Control System took place on 5 April 2003 from USS Stethem (DDG 63) off southern California. Launched from the Navy’s forward-deployed ships and submarines, Tomahawk® Block IV, will provide a greater flexibility to the on-scene commander. Tomahawk® Block IV will become operational in mid 2004.

Explosive Magnetocumulative Generator Warhead

The process of creating the magnetic field in an EMG generator requires a coil wrapped in belt of explosives, shaped to create an implosion. Before detonation, current is sent throught the coil which creates a small magnetic field for a split second. The explosives are then detonated to “squeeze” the coil rapidly and create an extremely high-magnetic-field. The joint experiments being done by scientists from Los Alamos and Arazamas-16 have used this type of generator with large multicoil systems. In military form, the EMG is a conventional warhead that produces a magnetic pulsed field equal to a small nuclear bomb. EMGs can knock out computers, radios, radars and fry a wide variety of electronic devices. The U.S. version, an EMG warhead equipped Tomahawk cruise missile, was considered by the Clinton administration for “non-lethal” strikes against Serbian radar and command posts. Russian versions vary but two have been openly developed for Speznatz (special forces) operations, a backpack EMG and a grenade sized EMG.

No prob…I didn’t know how big this forum was. We should have search engine!
Any way the new Tomahawk has a range of 3000 km! But the problem is that is slow and targets tend to move by that time. Don’t forget its expensive.

desijatt i gotto admire you for digging this thread up from where it was…nice work…by the way i heard someone talking of a new version of the T hawk…any news

Well what about the Russian S-10 Granat (NATO SS-N-21 Sampson), which is near as dammit a clone of the Tomahawk?

China is making a clone of the Tomahawk the Red Bird from everse engineering ad stolen tech…I think…