Trans Atlantic Warbird Deliveries Through Prestwick

Hi Propstrike, although it’s not what I wanted to hear it’s what I expected! Thanks for the info, anyway. Skipper

Skipper, I think it is pretty certain that 3 CASA-2 111 did NOT fly together in in/over Scotland in the period to which you refer.

As I recall, two of the aircraft made the trans-Atlantic crossing, but they did not fly together. Don’t tell your father!

As the Jetstream 31 prototype,G-JSSD,is now preserved at East Fortune,it could rightfully be called an historic aircraft.Photo taken just after it’s first flight.

I have many photos of various Jetstreams at Prestwick but they don’t really fit into the historic forum.I will scan some tomorrow and put them in the photo section.

Tell Cosford Museum that?? :rolleyes:

Three later shots of N166G as first two G-PSID then as F-AZFI (in French markings) just for historical interest.

I have many photos of various Jetstreams at Prestwick but they don’t really fit into the historic forum.I will scan some tomorrow and put them in the photo section.

Some brilliant pics there, cestrian, please keep them coming.

Great pics Cestrian. Have you got any early pics of the Jetstreams (T1/T2/31/32’S)?

Cheers,

J man

Well, those piccies of the CASA-2.111s might just help me solve a long standing mystery which has been a source of ridicule from my father over the years!!

I was outside one sunny summer’s day (late afternoon/early evening) “playing commandos” with a schoolfriend of mine when we both saw what clearly looked like three “HE111s” flying in formation directly overhead.

We lived in the village of Fairlie in Ayshire, Scotland. We stood there like the boys in that good ‘ol scene from the BoB film – “they’re ‘einkels…!!! 😀 “

To this day, I am CONVINCED they were ‘einkels but I could not think of any possible reason for them being there. The incident would have taken place sometime between the summer of 1977 and the summer of 1979.

Fairlie is approx 15 miles to the north of Prestwick and we often saw air-traffic coming in and out of Prestwick.

Does anyone know if there were ever three CASA-2.111s in the air together during the late ’70s and if they could have been in the vicinity of Prestwick during the timescales I mention?

Please, please, please put me out of my misery…! 😮

Regards

Skipper

Fantastic pictures! There must be millions of little gems like these in draws across the world!

Rgds Cking

Cracking stuff…especially the G-MOSI shots….and to think it’s now stuck on the ground in the USAFM 🙁

The other CASA 2.111 is the one at the Cavanaugh Flight Museum, how long did this fly for in the USA after arriving….? Did they ever fly this one with the CAF I wonder…?

My recollection is that the CASA flew in hops to the Cavanaugh museum from somewhere else in the US, having to land every so often to change plugs and top up the oil. I **think** it was being restored to fly, but haven’t heard much on it since.

It remembers me this photo, obtained from:
http://www.fag.es/sevilla/aparatos/unpedro.htm

Where you can see the same plane in one of his last spanish flights, acompanied by A EdA CASA/Nortrhop F5, and Two HA220 Super Saeta.:

TJ Johansen.
Sea Fury N46990 became N924G with Sanders Aircraft

Great shots with a interesting subject. This is a new tread in my category: can”t get enough of this’! 😎

J.V.

Great collection of photos, Cestrian. I especially liked the photos of N166G and N47DE. The guy on 47DE’s wing is ferry pilot Mike Wright. He also flew on the Hanover Street flight (see Jeff Hawke tread), and has delivered more warbirds across the pond that most other pilots. Weren’t the T-28s a part of a Jeff Hawke/Dave Tallichet deal? The T-6 (N2860G) was Hawke’s plane if I remember correctly. Think there was a photo of it in Flypast in 1982. Just a question; did Sea Fury N46990 become N924G or N62143? Don’t know if this is of interest, but here is a photo of N513PA 44-72934 which became “Shangri-La” with Doug Arnold. This is Pioneer Aero Service’s Todd Ward taxying out for the plane’s second flight in June 91.

T J Johansen
Oslo, NORWAY

Cracking stuff…especially the G-MOSI shots….and to think it’s now stuck on the ground in the USAFM 🙁

The other CASA 2.111 is the one at the Cavanaugh Flight Museum, how long did this fly for in the USA after arriving….? Did they ever fly this one with the CAF I wonder…?

Teriffic stuff cestrian. Thanks for sharing.

The only flying shot I took of G-MOSI was a rather distant shot of a low pass down the taxiway.I’ve also included a couple of Lindsey Walton’s F4U-7 Corsair N1337A on it’s delivery flight to Duxford,7 August 1982.And finally T-6 N2860G on a visit to the UK July 1982.

that mosquito looks awesome….shame she wasn’t kept airworthy

3 N5747(44-73027) P-51D 15/6/77.0n a short visit to the UK including a visit to Duxford.Crashed and destoyed 4/10/80

Fantastic shots – thanks for sharing !

this a/c actually had an illustrious life, including 3 crashes:

44-73027; P-51D-25-NA;

1950: 6th Dec. RCAF 9250 No. 416 Squadron
1959: N9146R (Trans Florida Aviation)
1960-72: numerous owners
1972: Racer #12, N5747
1972: (Robert Guildford) Mustang Pilots Club
1974: forced landing at Mojave
1977: forced landing at Bakersfield (inflight fire); competely rebuilt
1978: N51MP (Mustang Pilots Club)
1980: N51MP Restored at Chino CA
1980: Oct. 4th Crashed, destroyed at Lancaster, CA, completely rebuilt with ex-TNI-AU (Indonesian AF) airframe
1991: (William Speer) Racer #56
1993: sold to France (Christophe Jacquart) F-AZJM “Temptation”
1998: sold to Switzerland (Fritz Mueller) HB-RCW
1998: 3rd Sept. Fatal crash in Swiss mountains

here is a synopsis of the events leading up to crash….

…this ship was sold to Switzerland and received Swiss registration HB-RCW in July 1998 (colour scheme remained unchanged), but sadly it crashed on September 3rd, 1998 in the Swiss Mountains on a ferry flight over the Alps to attend an Air Show in southern Switzerland (Ambri). The pilot (a very experienced professional pilot, i.e. chief pilot of Swiss Air Ambulance and famous Swiss champion aerobatics pilot, together with his son (also certified pilot) were killed instantly and the a/c was totally destroyed.
The reason for this crash has been determined as follows: bad weather enroute, coupled with fading daylight (thus causing time-pressure), the conditions caused disorientation. The passage South through a slow-climbing valley was missed and they instead were caught in a pocket-valley. Realizing this they attempted to do a 180° turn but went into a high speed stall and hit high ground.
The PIC had done many performances in another Swiss based P-51D (‘Double Trouble Two, N51EA) but this was his first flight in HB-RCW…

Martin / Swiss Mustangs