September 10, 2004 at 12:53 pm
For Locobuster and Alanl.
One of the joys of building a photographic archive and ageing is that you sometimes forget just what you have taken. 🙂
Whilst I had located the wad of Transpo 72 b/w prints mentioned, I had forgotten that I had taken one roll of slide.
I have never been a big fan of slides. I like the colour but not the display and management. The old process of making inter-negs to get prints was expensive and the results frankly cr*p. The ‘ciba chrome’ process changed all that but we are talking here early 1970’s.
1970: Pre Flypast, Aeroplane Monthly, Duxford, RAF Museum but a small embryonic UK Warbird movement. Post Harold Wilson’s pay freeze but still with exchange control problems to get spending money out of the UK.
A trip to the US to see Warbirds was a big deal then. Here were WWII aircraft that most of ‘Baby boom’ America had never seen let alone UK enthusiasts.
This was the first time the Confederate Air Force had ventured out of Texas. Even their PR photos were b/w.
I’ll post a selective bunch of the b/w to fill the gaps but in the meantime enjoy the colour shots in no particular order.
Mark
By: Mark12 - 10th September 2004 at 21:42
Hi Mark 12,thanks for posting the photo’s,they are very good they could almost have been taken this year not 22 years ago!!
Well actually 32 years ago – 1972!
Mark
By: alanl - 10th September 2004 at 21:31
Hi Mark 12,thanks for posting the photo’s,they are very good they could almost have been taken this year not 22 years ago!I do like to see well known aircraft in unfamiliar schemes,it certainly adds to ‘the history’ of our hobby(obsession!) I think.
Thats why I like to see the photo’s of Micael o’leary because he seems to have a good archive,does anybody know if he has a website?
Ps have you ever considerded a spitfire photo archive book David?A best seller surely!
By: Corsair166b - 10th September 2004 at 21:10
Hmm…Tom Wood was STILL the owner back then…wow.
They did’nt use any of the wreck of Scatterbrain in Scatterbrain II? Saw her go down at Breckenridge the year it happened…just a nice, graceful descent followed by lots of planes headed her way…she was hard to see in the west Texas prairie, the camo worked TOO well, but the crew was back that night at the airshow party…happy ending…except for the P-38!
Mark
By: Corsair166b - 10th September 2004 at 20:21
Beautiful stuff…..Tom Wood’s Mustang (HI-G) still looks the same today, except Tom owns it now, probably someone else back in ’72….
Last time I saw 3 P-38’s in one place and all flying was at Peterson AFB in Colorado Springs was back in 1992…’Scatterbrain’ in her long nose configuration…Lefty’s, and the new CAF P-39 that used to belong to William Lyons….since then Scatterbrain has crashed, Lefty’s has crashed, and Lyon’s bird is in dispute with the CAF and the USAF…
Mark
Mark
By: Mark12 - 10th September 2004 at 19:43
Transpo 72: Black & White
Hi Mark 12
thanks for posting those wonderful pictures.
Also Locobuster, welcome and thanks for posting.When are you going to start posting the WW2 B&W shots you mentioned?? 🙂 🙂 🙂
Cheers
Andy
Hold on! Hold on!
Here are ten to be going on with.
Only another 290 to go……………….only joking. 🙂
I think it was this show, maybe the next, but the young man taxiing Bob Hoover’s Mustang had the best job in the world; positioning Rockwell’s yellow beast around the US. If memory fails me I think he said his name was Hinton.
Mark
By: Locobuster - 10th September 2004 at 16:45
T J , between two jobs and a monster project I have undertaken I don’t have a life either. At least your girlfriend affords you the chance to leave the house, I live with mine! LOL!
Martin. You have a reply. We’ve had contact before, in fact you’ve sent me photos for the project I am working on.
Andy, I forgot to thank you for thue warm welcome and that goes for all of you who’ve been so cordial and gracious.
By: Locobuster - 10th September 2004 at 16:34
Andy.
I’ll post selected ones here in the very near future. One of the unfortunate things about the collection I was given is that there are not very many of just the aircraft but that can be overlooked by the fact nearly every member of the squadron (and then some) were included.
By: Swiss Mustangs - 10th September 2004 at 16:33
Enjoy !
@Locobuster: sent you a PM.
Cordially
Martin / Swiss Mustangs
By: T J Johansen - 10th September 2004 at 16:27
Man what a GREAT PLACE I have stumbled into here! Just 30 minutes after I post the pics and I’m being given info about them? You people are top notch! Between Mark12’s posting his excellent pics and prompting a great nostalgia trip for me then TJ Johansen adding info to pics I’ve had for years you have made my day!
Or it means I don’t have life… 🙁
Hey, my girlfriend just called and wanted me to meet her for a couple of beers at a sidewalk bar here in town. Guess I have a life after all. See Yaaaaaaa. 😎
By: Andy in Beds - 10th September 2004 at 16:12
Pictures…
Hi Mark 12
thanks for posting those wonderful pictures.
Also Locobuster, welcome and thanks for posting.
When are you going to start posting the WW2 B&W shots you mentioned?? 🙂 🙂 🙂
Cheers
Andy
By: Locobuster - 10th September 2004 at 15:58
Man what a GREAT PLACE I have stumbled into here! Just 30 minutes after I post the pics and I’m being given info about them? You people are top notch! Between Mark12’s posting his excellent pics and prompting a great nostalgia trip for me then TJ Johansen adding info to pics I’ve had for years you have made my day!
Harlingen is probably a good bet I believe the photos originated from a former 20th. Fighter Group clerk who lived in Texas but as well other images were added by a former 20th.FG pilot from San Antonio and I know both men went to shows there many times.
By: T J Johansen - 10th September 2004 at 15:43
Mustang #2 is 44-64005 N51WB possibly owned by Joe Arnold
Mustang #3 is 44-73856 N7TF owned by Tom Friedkin
Photos are very likely shot at Harlingen during Airsho in the late 70’s. Anyone who can confirm/deny this?
T J Johansen
By: Locobuster - 10th September 2004 at 15:16
By: T J Johansen - 10th September 2004 at 15:14
Just took Kevin Grantham’s book “P-Screamers” out of the shelf, and when looking at the photos of N345 it is the same, down to the shark mouth on the intakes.
T J Johansen
By: Mark12 - 10th September 2004 at 14:40
So we’ve had 3 different IDs on the P-38 so far :confused:
Any more offers?
Well I think there were three P-38s there. Two from the CAF and the Bill Ross machine, live side, but away from the main gaggle. I will post a b/w on this thread in due course when scanned.
Mark
By: Locobuster - 10th September 2004 at 14:40
Awsome shots Mark12. 😎 I almost can’t believe they are more than 30 years old.
Wow, like my receeding hairline and expanding waistline aren’t reminder enough of the fact I am getting old now this? 😮 LOL!!! It really is amazing that images from that long ago can conjure up so many emotions and memories.
By: Mark12 - 10th September 2004 at 14:38
Gosh
Thanks Steve,
I am surprised how good they looked after scanning and up on the screen.
I hadn’t seen them for over 25 years and then only to hold up to the light.
I also found a bunch of slides of ‘Airwar 74’ from Windsor Ontario. They will need a bit of perk up with PSP, as from a different camera, but perhaps for posting in a week or so.
You can’t take them with you. 😉
Mark
By: Stieglitz - 10th September 2004 at 14:31
Awsome shots Mark12. 😎 I almost can’t believe they are more than 30 years old.
Thanks a lot!
J.V.
By: T J Johansen - 10th September 2004 at 14:30
Thanks for posting, Mark. Fantastic stuff! 🙂
Any ID on the silver P-38?
That would be Gary Levitz “Double Trouble Too” N345 which he raced during the 1970’s. Later had an accident in the pits when the gear unfortunately collapsed. Now with War Eagles Air Museum in Santa Teresa, NM.
The B-17 is Texas Raiders in the old colors she wore. Can’t get this photo to work, might be too big but here’s the URL: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/296422/M/
T J Johansen
By: Steve Bond - 10th September 2004 at 14:26
Gosh