Tropical filters ommited – why?

Originally posted by DazDaMan
Has the Hurricane gone back yet?

Yep, the Hurricane left the UK during late July / early August 2002. It was a lovely looking aircraft when once it was finished, way better than what they sent over.

Earlier photo of EE853 that I got from 79 Squadron pilot Hugh Kennare, back in the mid 80s. He’d flown with Barney Newman who had been a Spit XII pilot with 41 Squadron before joining 79 where he was killed flying VIIIs in August 45. Hugh also knew Don Smith who’d flown XIIs with 41.

Note the tropical filter under the nose, not yet attached. And Mark12, the pilot of MB882 in your avatar is standing to that left behind the right wing. That’s Don Smith.

Now if at some time I could have a Spitfire in my back yard like Langdon Badger did 🙂

Dan

That picture is a bit old, I think. Has the Hurricane gone back yet? If so, the Spit would probably have been repainted by now.

Yes, I realize that. I was hoping that by putting up the link that it would clear up the situation a little bit. However it seems that I’ve muddied up the waters even more. Pardon me while I go shoot myself.:( 😉

Warhawk,

This suggests that it is still in the Eagle Squadron livery.

Mark

Yup, I gotcha. I went back and sure enough they have two Spits in the USAF museum. Now that everyone has looked at the wrong page, try this one:

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey24.htm

Does that look a little better everyone?

I think you’ve got the wrong Spit there Warhawk,the one you mention is a PR.XI (11),an unarmed Photo Recce model.The aircraft in question here is a Mk.V (5) fighter.

Originally posted by Mark12
Quote from Daz:
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‘Spitfire Vc MA863, currently residing in the USAF museum, and now repainted in a USAAF colour scheme…’
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Can anybody please support this with a photo?

Mark

According to the USAF museum website it has been painted to represent an aircraft from the 14th photographic squadron based at mount farm. There is a picture with the text at:

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap17.htm

Mark,

I thought she was still in Eagle sqn markings

Could be wrong though

Quote from Daz:
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‘Spitfire Vc MA863, currently residing in the USAF museum, and now repainted in a USAAF colour scheme…’
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Can anybody please support this with a photo?

Mark

Mark,

By all means 😉

JBS

May I………..?

Here is a shot of MH592 taken at Belgrade on 19 March 1990.

There is a lot of controversy over the identity of this Mk V.

On the basis that the ‘new’ museum register of 1961 listed this aircraft as ‘9489’ of the Yugoslav Air Force it was duly restored in the late 1980’s and repainted as ‘JK808/B’. All fairly reasonable considering the aircraft was for many years without any serial at all and latterly painted as ‘JK448/W’.

Period photos however at the museum storage facility at Kalamagdon Park taken in April 1961 clearly show the original military serial as 9486 and for me that will make it MH592.

I have suggested a simple transcription error was made in the register. The Yugoslavs however suggest a mispaint of the military serial in the 1950’s. :rolleyes:

Mark

The Mk.Vc Spitfire MH592 at the Yugoslav Aeronautical Museum in Belgrade has a Vokes filter fitted

I have a picture, but its not mine so I can’t post it

EE853 (J Burford photo)

What about the Spit Vc at the South Australia Aircraft Museum and the Hurricane on display in Belgrade a few years ago?

The one exception to this must have been Black-6, as didn’t the team refit the trop filter to her part way through her display life. I seem to remember it was fabricated using the original trop filter from the SAAF Museum 109F Trop. as a pattern…?

And hasn’t he SAAF Museum Hurricane got a trop filter on it as well…???

Spitfire Vc MA863, currently residing in the USAF museum, and now repainted in a USAAF colour scheme (it wore Eagle Squadron markings while the Hurricane was over here being restored).

(photo: Dean Alexander)

Do any of the static Hurricanes or Spitfires have the Volks filter?

May mean a restoration not being totally correct historically speaking but a sensible enough decision to my way of thinking

Re: Tropical filters ommited – why?

Originally posted by Chris Broad
Hello chaps,
I was just wondering why modern restorations of warbirds don’t seem to ever have tropical filters fitted.
TIA

Very simple – its because they are very ugly and do nothing for performance. Coupled with the fact that they would have to be specially fabricated means that they are just never done.
These factors have overuled the historic accuracy factor.