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Turkey's newly announced 300+ metre STOBAR Aircraft carrier

Turkey has announced a program to design, develop and produce a 300+ metre STOBAR Aircraft Carrier by 2029.

What we know so far from Turkish media:

ICDAS Shipyard has acquired a new dry dock which measures 370m by 70m for this sole purpose.

Turkey intends to field a CV variant of the TF-X fighter (or another fighter to be developed with ROSTEC of Russia).

TEKSAV Teknoloji, a Turkish company which produces Aircraft Arresting systems has been asked to develop the STOBAR system.

Turkey’s success in developing surface-combatant carrier escorts (AAW Frigates, MILDEN Submarine etc) has paved the way for the CV program

http://i2.haber7.net//haber/haber7/photos/2018/21/yerli_ucak_gemisi_icin_ilk_adim_atildi_1526972162_1264.jpg

http://www.denizhaber.com.tr/icdas-tersanesinde-ucak-gemisi-icin-hazirliklar-basladi-haber-81684.htm
http://www.star.com.tr/ekonomi/ilk-ucak-gemisi-icin-insa-havuzu-yapiliyor-haber-1345284/
https://www.virahaber.com/ilk-ucak-gemisi-icin-insa-havuzu-yapiliyor-48434h.htm

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By: Bayar - 16th March 2019 at 10:58

Turkey’s first Light Aircraft Carrier/LHD TCG Anadolu is complete and due to be launched within 2 months. The keel laying ceremony for the second vessel TCG TRAKYA will also be held within 2 months time.

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By: Bayar - 16th February 2019 at 01:58

RECENT DEVELOPMENTS

Turkish shipyard SEDEF is due to launch the first of Turkey’s Light Carriers/LHD next month (March 2019): https://www.denizhaber.com.tr/tcg-an…aber-86725.htm

Turkish Ministry of Defence also confirms that the Keel laying ceremony for the second Light Carriers/LHD, TCG Trakya will be on the same day as the launch of TCG Anadolu: http://www.c4defence.com/Arsiv/tcg-t…geliyor/6374/1

Turkish Navy also confirms that 2 of its pilots are currently receiving training on the F-35B in the US and Turkey is also due to order 32 x F-35B’s: http://www.gazetevatan.com/amfibi-ge…168606-gundem/

The TCG Anadolu has been designed to field 12 F-35B’s each.

Turkey has also initiated a program to produce an electromagnetic catapult system for the launching of armed UAV’s from Naval vessels: https://www.dailysabah.com/defense/2019/01/25/turkish-defense-industry-working-on-armed-drone-launch-system-for-vessels

Turkey says the above programs will pave the way for an aircraft carrier proper.
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By: Bayar - 1st July 2018 at 15:02

New Turkish Production Facilities for the TF-X Program and other Aeroprograms in Turkey

Turkish Single Crystal Alloy Plant and Super Plastics Plant for Aircraft Engine and Fuselage Production

Special Alloys foundry

Carbon Fiber and Advance Composite Fuselage Materials Production Plant

Advance 3D Aerostructures Printing Facility

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By: ananda - 1st July 2018 at 14:42

Bayar does know anything..only based on scatch information..He’s continue poluting KFX thread…try to baiting his trolling..

This thread already poluted by his baseless claim. He’s claiming Korean should abandoned KFX..while his precious non starter TFX is the allmighty project.

He just having childish jelously since Korean KFX continue showing development progress as planned..whille his precious TFX stuck in paper stages with numorous MOU that he claim as proof of progress.

He know Turkey is facing economic difficulty that making financing TFX project continouity in real doubt (thus now he’s claiming Qatar will bank rolled it)..whille he’s degenerating KFX budget..
At least KFX budget is real money..not like his TFX fantasy budget..

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By: J-20 - 1st July 2018 at 09:41

Bayar doesn’t seem to post links or references for several claims.. so be careful!

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By: ananda - 1st July 2018 at 05:32

You trying to polute KFX thread..a real genuine program compared to your TFX. I’m not going to be baited on answering your trolling on KFX in Korean thread.

This thread already poluted by your delusional fantasy again bayar..you don’t know nothing on KFX progress. Still the Korean do real progress compared your fantasy program.

Talking about paying TFX..he,he..you only provided delusional scheme..not real money anyway..
No default yet on TFX payment ? How come you defaulting on a project mostly on paper snd no real development project yet..and you degenerate KFX progress with TFX non starter ? ..

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By: ananda - 1st July 2018 at 05:16

Again more delusional fantasy from bayar.. well as long as he’s posting his delurional fantasy in turkey’s thread..stop poluting other thread with your small knowledge and delusional fantasy..

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By: Bayar - 1st July 2018 at 02:19

Turkey is an unnamed partner in that program. Putin and Erdogan discussed this back during the discussions for the s-400

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By: Krivakapa - 30th June 2018 at 18:14

Russians are also planing to build VTOL fighter for their new carrier. Borisov talked about that earlier. So it is possible for Turkey to get modern VTOL which isn’t F-35.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201712151060040750-new-russian-vtol-aircraft-analysis/

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By: Bayar - 30th June 2018 at 15:56

News sources says that TAI is begging Russia for assistance with its TFX project.

Cite those “sources” like everyone else does!

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By: J-20 - 30th June 2018 at 12:02

News sources says that TAI is begging Russia for assistance with its TFX project.

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By: KGB - 29th June 2018 at 03:46

One of the Euro manufactures should do like Russia and build in a levcon. A levcon gives you some of the performance of a canard except its clean with the wing. No extra angles and protrusions

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By: Bayar - 28th June 2018 at 15:39

An old article on the TAI TF-X when Saab AB was the pre-conceptual design phase development partner in 2011

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By: Sintra - 28th June 2018 at 12:49

It’s not upside down

The aerofoil on Replica is inverted compared to most (all?) others and generates lift more effectively in that orientation

The pilot is sat inside the fuselage (like one of BAe’s concepts from the 90s)

What you think is the canopy is in fact a blister for a huge combined EO and DEW system

You are displaying a bit of British humor, am i correct?

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By: Al. - 27th June 2018 at 18:30

It’s not upside down

The aerofoil on Replica is inverted compared to most (all?) others and generates lift more effectively in that orientation

The pilot is sat inside the fuselage (like one of BAe’s concepts from the 90s)

What you think is the canopy is in fact a blister for a huge combined EO and DEW system

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By: KGB - 27th June 2018 at 18:09

Cool. Is the upside down jet a basic rendition of what a BAE 5th gen would look like ?

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By: Bayar - 27th June 2018 at 12:58

@Deino If Turkish Aerospace Industries did that, the management would be charged with releasing misleading information seeking to manipulate the Istanbul Stock Exchang.

@EagleSpirit with respect, I don’t quite follow…

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By: EagleSpirit - 26th June 2018 at 14:30

@EagleSpirit the above magazine article was written just before the Heads of Agreement was signed with BaE systems on 28 January 2017. That is, during the negotiations with BaE systems.

The BAE Systems Replica was discussed during the pre-contract study phase between BAE Systems and TAI well before 2017.

See https://www.baesystems.com/en/article/bae-systems-signs-heads-of-agreement-for-a-future-contract-with-turkish-aerospace-industries-for-tf-x-programme

You would note that the TF-X indigenous design and development program prime contract between Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) of Ministry of Turkish National Defence and Turkish Aerospace Industries Inc. (TAI) has been signed on 5th of August 2016. See https://www.tai.com.tr/en/product/milli-muharip-ucak

Hence, the magazine article corresponds with the time frame during which TAI began discussing the TF-X with BAE Systems.

I can’t help but realize you haven’t directly addressed a single thing I’ve said. Give me at least No 2.

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By: Deino - 26th June 2018 at 13:39

1. That particular addition of the webzine is from 2016.
2. There is nothing that backs up your first assertion anywhere to be seen (please provide a quote from the webzine in Turkish that backs your claim)
3. Your following assertions seem to be baseless, optimistic speculation unless you have actual official documentation.

I must admit I would rate nothing official from Turkey in regard to these countless phantasy-programmes – or should I say propaganda – as reliable.
Just look at the trainer, which was said to be nearly done, a semi-completed prototype was boosted which in the end was nothing more than a crude mock up that now again several months later looks again very much different … will be interesting, how the next iteration will look like, when president Erdogan announces the next elections.

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By: Bayar - 26th June 2018 at 12:42

@EagleSpirit the above magazine article was written just before the Heads of Agreement was signed with BaE systems on 28 January 2017. That is, during the negotiations with BaE systems.

The BAE Systems Replica was discussed during the pre-contract study phase between BAE Systems and TAI well before 2017.

See https://www.baesystems.com/en/article/bae-systems-signs-heads-of-agreement-for-a-future-contract-with-turkish-aerospace-industries-for-tf-x-programme

You would note that the TF-X indigenous design and development program prime contract between Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM) of Ministry of Turkish National Defence and Turkish Aerospace Industries Inc. (TAI) has been signed on 5th of August 2016. See https://www.tai.com.tr/en/product/milli-muharip-ucak

Hence, the magazine article corresponds with the time frame during which TAI began discussing the TF-X with BAE Systems.

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