Tyre burst pilot 'was distracted'

Okay, seems my comment was generally deemed as being too hard on Steve, apologies one and all.

Paul F

Walks off to supermarket to find some humble pie…..

No need to apologise my friend you are perfectly entitled to your opinion…that’s what this forum is about an exchange of opinions and comments

Happened before,not only on Airbus but other types.
If this mistake can happen, then it will happen.
We humans are not perfect.

Okay, seems my comment was generally deemed as being too hard on Steve, apologies one and all.

Paul F

Walks off to supermarket to find some humble pie…..

That’s right, Steve, two highly trained professionals made a simple mistake – unfortunately it happens, and will continue to happen while there are human beings involved in any process. They get tired, they get distracted, they forget things….. . Training tries to remove/reduce the risk of error, but until human beings are perfect then mistakes will happen.

Fortunately this sort of mistake does not happen too often in professional aviation, and in this case, fortunately, no-one was hurt. I doubt either of the two crew involved will ever make the same mistake again.

I assume you’ve never ever made a mistake in your life which other “armchair” viewers not in same situation might have viewed as “stupid”?

Paul F

There’s no room for error when you have the lives of hundreds of people in your hands..that simple error could have ended in disaster..and the only mistake I’ll admit is getting married

What i dont get is that the warning sound/light for the parking brake didnt appear. I also think that they didnt even bother to do a landing check which bothers me quite a bit as a landing check is standered before landing. if they had done that then none of this would of happened

I had a flick through the AAIB report and it seems that the model of flight computer fitted at the time only gave a silent warning for the parking brake being engaged in-flight, and didn’t add an item to the landing checklist to take it off. Also, BMI’s SOP didn’t require the crew to check for advisories on the displays before landing… now it does, and newer model flight computers give an aural warning too.

What i dont get is that the warning sound/light for the parking brake didnt appear. I also think that they didnt even bother to do a landing check which bothers me quite a bit as a landing check is standered before landing. if they had done that then none of this would of happened

Ah, so computers are now foolproof?:diablo:

believe that and youll believe anything ,computers will be the death of mankind:cool: 😎 😎

Habsheim was while ago, Newforest! 😀

Paul

Ah, so computers are now foolproof?:diablo:

The human error and all that, maybe suggest that a computer wouldn’t make a mistake, but then they do don’t they! (Airbus)

Habsheim was while ago, Newforest! 😀

Paul

Pretty much the post I was going to post and then didn’t. The human error and all that, maybe suggest that a computer wouldn’t make a mistake, but then they do don’t they! (Airbus)

Don’t be hard on Steve, I am sure he will admit to making mistakes, like all of us!:D

I assume you’ve never ever made a mistake in your life which other “armchair” viewers not in same situation might have viewed as “stupid”?

I actually think it’s perfectly reasonable for ‘armchair viewers’, or, as I prefer to call them in cases like this, ‘passengers’, not to expect mistakes like this to be made. I don’t work in aviation, but I fly very regularly and ‘expect’ the pilot not to be distracted to such a degree when flying, because that is what he’s paid to do. I realise people make mistakes, I’ve made enough of them myself to understand that, but I think Steve’s point is perfectly fair and some mistakes just shouldn’t happen.

Paul

That’s right, Steve, two highly trained professionals made a simple mistake – unfortunately it happens, and will continue to happen while there are human beings involved in any process. They get tired, they get distracted, they forget things….. . Training tries to remove/reduce the risk of error, but until human beings are perfect then mistakes will happen.

Fortunately this sort of mistake does not happen too often in professional aviation, and in this case, fortunately, no-one was hurt. I doubt either of the two crew involved will ever make the same mistake again.

I assume you’ve never ever made a mistake in your life which other “armchair” viewers not in same situation might have viewed as “stupid”?

Paul F

Two highly trained professional people on the flight deck and they made an unbelievably simple error that could have ended in disaster