December 15, 2012 at 9:52 am
In view of what has happened to these, and indeed other School children, and many other incidents that have taken place, involving the use of Shotguns and Section 1 Firearms.do you think that any individual should be allowed to own seemingly as many weapons as they like?.in the U.S.A.
Personaly, I think the 2nd should be fine tuned, to allow anyone to own the minimum of weapons they REALY need, And all weapons be kept in a secure place within the owners property, or at a gun club, where they are secure.
Should they adopt the same rules and regs as we have here in the U.K.
The other week, I was watching a U.S.A. program where a family business purchased and sold, also traded weapons, and one chap brought to them a pristine GATLING gun he wanted to sell, need I say more?.
What are members views on gun ownership in the States?.
Jim.
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By: Bmused55 - 9th January 2013 at 14:33
ha ha ha, you and me both Bob!
What scares me, is that people like him are armed!
By: Bob - 9th January 2013 at 13:00
As much as I dislike Piers Morgan, I was praying he’d pull out a wet fish and slap that raving lunatic Jones into next week….
By: Lincoln 7 - 8th January 2013 at 19:27
Moggy just a polite reply to your question. this thread may well be wrapped up and ended now, but no one, despite all posted on here, not a single person has answered my O.P.
I doubt if it will ever be solved as long as the NRA keep pumping cash into, “The right hands”.
Thanks to all you guys for your opinions.
Jim.
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By: Moggy C - 8th January 2013 at 19:19
I’ll take that as a “No” then?
By: Richard gray - 8th January 2013 at 19:16
Alex Jones and Piers Morgan in serious debate about gun laws.:eek:
By: ZRX61 - 8th January 2013 at 18:17
Is this government debt, private debt or the sum of both?
The 3 biggest creditors are China, Japan & then the UK.. but they all fall in line behind the Federal Reserve which is actually owned by the Rothschilds etc & they also print the money…. Right now they are printing & loaning the US $40Billion a month, have been for months & will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
The US is in a strange situation where the Govt doesn’t actually own the central bank which prints the money. The Fed conjure the money out of thin air & the Govt is then in debt to the Fed for the amount they print..
& you thought the UK system was effed up…. 😉
By: charliehunt - 8th January 2013 at 13:52
Fair question – and prompts me to wish it farewell!:)
By: Moggy C - 8th January 2013 at 13:39
Just a polite enquiry as to whether this thread is ever likely to come to an end.
We have already had posted links to a site that shows graphs proving that only 66,500,000 inhabitants of Florida are killed by shooting each year and this is somehow a good thing. We are now spiralling off into US debt.
Just asking. :confused:
Moggy
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By: charliehunt - 8th January 2013 at 13:18
It is strictly national government debt and does not include private debt nor does it include external debt.
By: jbritchford - 8th January 2013 at 13:02
Is this government debt, private debt or the sum of both?
Don’t forget that in the case of developed countries a lot of the government debt is actually owed to native investors through Govt bonds – it’s not quite the same as owing it to someone else as the country effectively owes itself.
By: charliehunt - 8th January 2013 at 12:57
So it’s not nearly the same! But it’s certainly unsustainable, which is why it requires urgent action…but little do we see!:(
As a percentage of GDP here are the top 20 nations’ gross debt:
1. Japan 229.8
2. Greece 163.3
3. Jamaica 139.0
4. Lebanon 136.2
5. Eritrea 133.8
6. Italy 120.1
7. Barbados 117.3
8. Portugal 106.8
9. Ireland 105.0
10 USA 102.9
11 Singapore 100.8
12 Iceland 99.2
13 Belgium 98.5
14 Mauritania 92.4
15 Ivory Coast 90.5
16 Iraq 86.9
17 Grenada 86.6
18 France 86.3
19 Canada 85.0
20 UK 82.5
Oman is the least indebted with 5.1%
By: Lincoln 7 - 8th January 2013 at 12:01
He won’t even have started on this – http://www.usdebtclock.org/ – before he leaves office!!
I would imagine, ours is nearly the same, however on a smaller scale.
Jim.
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By: jbritchford - 8th January 2013 at 10:38
One of my favourite podcasts, ‘Common Sense’ by an American chap named Dan Carlin has commented on the gun issue recently in what I thought were two very interesting shows with a perspective that I had never heard before.
By: charliehunt - 8th January 2013 at 10:12
once Obama gets his Countries Fiscal problems on a more level plain,
He won’t even have started on this – http://www.usdebtclock.org/ – before he leaves office!!
By: Lincoln 7 - 8th January 2013 at 09:44
I remain unconvinced. We’ll see…..
Just my opinion, but once Obama gets his Countries Fiscal problems on a more level plain, his attention may be to give gun Laws rules of ownership more thought.
Jim.
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By: Lincoln 7 - 8th January 2013 at 09:32
Rick. A most disturbing list to read, Paxil and Prozac, seem to feature a lot in your list, Another thing I noticed was the items that could kill, being able to be taken INTO schools.
Amytriptaline I see is on the list also, my wife is on those, not because she is depressed, but to help her sleep.
I get junk mail from Lawyers in the States, asking folks if they had taken X or Y drugs, and then getting those that have to take legal action against the drug makers for any adverse side effects.
It seems that M.Ds over there, dish drugs out willy nilly.
If I were a Dr I think prior to prescribing some of these drugs, I would thoroughly go into their medical history. Also ask if any other members have firearms i the house, and if so, ask the mother or father to make sure the weapon was kept securly locked away from the patient.
It would appear that the M.D.s are dishing out these killer drugs that are causing more deaths than those such as ecstacy, et al.
I view of these figures, I must admit the NRA cannot accept all the blame.
Thanks for the interesting, however, disturbing figures.
Jim.
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By: charliehunt - 8th January 2013 at 08:32
He may well have, but I think the Tide is about to turn on this, still keeping the 2nd, but with some radical changes that the NRA, may not even like.
Jim.
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I remain unconvinced. We’ll see…..
By: ZRX61 - 8th January 2013 at 02:50
Hmmmm, Food for thought, never did believe in statistics, however,
Jim.
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By: Lincoln 7 - 7th January 2013 at 20:13
Obama has stated lots of things…….:rolleyes:
He may well have, but I think the Tide is about to turn on this, still keeping the 2nd, but with some radical changes that the NRA, may not even like.
Jim.
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By: Lincoln 7 - 7th January 2013 at 20:08
Hmmmm, Food for thought, never did believe in statistics, however, I think the general public are fed up with the law as it is, and that is forcing Obama, to make statements as he has.
Just remains to see what happens.
Jim.
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