UFO or not

Kev is right, this thread is now locked as it has sunk quite low…

VeeOne.
One thing you will learn on here is if you kick one in the ankle half a
dozen jump:D

…I think this bully is bringing the forum down and making people feel oppressed so I will not back down…

With all due respect, you’ve been posting here, what, two months? :rolleyes:

And until yesterday you didn’t seem to have a problem with the moderation……maybe it’s you?

“Area 51, I was there” on Nat Geo.
Well, I didn’t need to re-learn the history of the U2 and the Sr71, both of which are covered better in Books and other programmes.

Nothing new here, move along.

If we were being visited by sentient beings from another world then surely by now one would have appeared on either Oprah, Jeremy Kyle or Britain’s Got Talent.

Regards,

kev35

I wanted to say it was a Pigeon in my PM. It had that metallic Grey sheen to it LoL.

Did I say Grey? Oops.

This example from the Sun (yes, I know!) is described by Nick Pope, one of Britain’s ‘foremost UFO experts’, as ‘one of the best he had seen’ yet it is the sort of photographic ‘UFO’ evidence that is typical.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article637499.ece

Well I may not be one of Britain’s ‘foremost UFO experts’ but after studying the photograph for a short while I concluded that it was almost certainly a bird flying across in front of the camera (I sent my suggestion by PM to an independent witness before I asked for suggestions).

I received four (independent) attempted identifications by PM (before a suggestion was posted on the thread); they were:

“It’s just a seagull.”

“…think it is a seagull.”

“It’s a bird. Probably a seagull?”

“It’s a Bird.”

Now I know that ‘man takes blurred photograph of seagull’ isn’t going to sell many newspapers but one of Britain’s ‘foremost UFO experts’ thought that the ‘UFO’ looked ‘structured, symmetrical and metallic’. I will leave you all to draw your own conclusions about how much notice we should all take of such ‘experts’.

My own conclusion is that those who think ‘we are not alone’ should stop watching whole series of ‘The X-Files’ back-to-back, stop visiting UFO sites on the internet and stop watching UFO clips on YouTube (with the creepy music) late at night!

We are not alone (probably)…..but this information comes from science not the entertainment media! :rolleyes:

I believe Grey Area has successfully been ‘bullied’ off the forum

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/member.php?u=4271

Baz

Yes, you are quite right.

“The heyday of UFO research has gone, magazines have folded…..”

Presumably because modern methods of observation and information have identified UFOs as natural objects or as mistaken observation. And the inevitable consequence will probably be an increasing lack of interest in the phenomenon.

This thread will be either locked or deleted because of some people refusing to follow the instructions given in the Code of Conduct. The message is clear, take your grievances up, privately, with the webmaster.

On a personal note, I have met Grey Area, and have had the odd run in with him over time. Yet he has always been firm but fair.

I think that sometimes people need to remember that Key actually provide this forum free of charge and some parts of it have become an invaluable resource for historians and researchers alike. Key could just pull the plug and that would be it.

And I can tell you, unless he has been promoted, that Grey Area is NOT the webmaster.

Regards,

kev35

The heyday of UFO research has gone, magazines have folded leaving a rather useful section in Fortean Times which I recommend having been a subscriber for at least fifteen years. You can read about the refusal of those who believe in the visitor from space theory to accept research which sometimes debunks sightings and explains what caused the illusions.

far more interesting is the causes of the sightings when they reveal more natural wonders of Earth which had gone un investigated.Also the recent release of documents which shows that UFOs were used to explain sightings of secret research aircraft.A cover up.

I am amused and also dismayed when real facts are proven and those who maintain that some sightings were of spacecraft from off Earth origin still stick to their theories.

The discussion of moderaters has no place on this thread, find another thread.

I think you should have sent this to the webmaster, Vee One.

As PeeDee says, GA probably IS the webmaster! 😮

But I did express these views to him/her, but more strongly.

I think you should have sent this to the webmaster, Vee One.

Well, its sad that these things should happen when we are all here to relax and enjoy sharing thoughts and info.

My main complaint against Grey Area is this, GA is a moderator and he is there to moderate members’ behaviour. This is an important job. But he has taken it upon himself to censor our beliefs and opinions and that is simply fascist and unacceptable in a free-speech society.

Worse, he deleted my reply asking him to take the subject up with me privately because I believe such arguments upset other members. He deleted that post and then attacked me for it accusing me of not being willing to take up his points. In my post I said I felt he was patronising me. He deleted my post and then threw that back at me. He wants it both ways. If you delete a post you should not then respond to it. He broke the site rules by calling me patronising but he deleted my post because I called him that.

So yes, GA, disingenuous is what you are because of this behaviour.

So ban me! I hate bullies. I don’t back down to them ever. I am dumb like that. I can appear under many avatars if the fight is just and right.

GA please just do your job and don’t try to enforce your views over other members’ opinions and views. It demeans someone of your obvious intellegence to behave in that way. I am sure you don’t need to bully people with your MOD powers to get your point of view across. If you are correct you will prevail, if not you will learn something new. Isn’t this the tried and tested free-speech society we are happy to live within?

I can repost this as many times as you delete it, sweetheart.;)

Sarah

I have heard that grey area has abused his moderator position in the past too.

He has deleted posts he doesn’t like even though they do not break any site rules.

He locks threads he doesn’t like.

He uses the ‘rules’ to support his bully-boy tactics but then breaks the rules when it pleases him.

In my case he is acting as a censor of my and other members’ opinions and beliefs. He uses the ‘rules’ to justify his censorship but this is disingenuous behaviour and others see what he is really doing.

He deleted my post in which I say I will not publically fight with him but will happily communicate in private. He patronised my posts and opinions so I called him patronising. But then he attacked me personally refering to the post he had already deleted. That is so wrong on so many philosophical levels.

I have been told privately to be careful because this is his modus operandi. But I think this bully is bringing the forum down and making people feel oppressed so I will not back down within the scope of civilised behaviour and the site rules. So what will happen is he will continuously delete my posts irrespective of whether they are within the rules or not and I will keep reposting them. Eventually this bullying will end with my being banned – not for breaking the rules but – for standing up for my right to free speech.

Moderators should moderate behaviour not censor our opinions and beliefs. If this man is a friend of yours then I guess he will be allowed to continue his overbearing behaviour to members and their opinions. I hope however, that you will take a fair and measured approach to this and bear in mind I am just one in a line of members who have become victim to this man’s condescending behaviour.

You will have to decide if you wish this forum to be a friendly and open one or one that which police’s our opinions and dominates beliefs.

You go to private messaging and select compose new message, type in webmaster as the recipient’s address and off you go.

I have already PMd the Webmaster and I assume VeeOne has as well. I am usually in sympathy with the forum’s moderation but not this time.

How do you do it? I started a thread because I couldn’t find a link.

I have already PMd the Webmaster and I assume VeeOne has as well. I am usually in sympathy with the forum’s moderation but not this time.

Ooh dear – you are living dangerously here………;)

Well, two of my posts removed when at the end of the day I was only giving advice to somebody that has clearly got a problem. I do believe that a seasoned campaign of complaints is required to solve this.
Whilst personal attacks are obviously banned, so should moderator bully tactics, even when the bullying is psychological based on an assumed superiority.
I’ve watched many many threads turn to rat**** because of this attitude, and many users being clearly upset. Even brand new and very valuable users like VeeOne.
For all we know, the “Webmaster” is probably him, because with such outright confidence in removing posts with the “I’ll hide behind this big internet door” attitude. GA must go.

Ooh dear – you are living dangerously here………;)