UK domestic routes…?

Think KLM Cityhopper would be great on that route with a F50,But I dont think it could happen as they are at nearby LCY;)

James

See the Market Analysis section of the report I have linked to above, in that there is a section on airline views of SEN, inclusing FlyBe and KLM among others..

Think KLM Cityhopper would be great on that route with a F50,But I dont think it could happen as they are at nearby LCY;)

James

KLM have certainly been in negotiations with SEN regarding an AMS-SEN route, but I don’t know how things stand at present. I’m sure that route, with its potential for interlining as well as leisure and business travellers, would be successful especially if good scheduling was offered.
The best prospects for SEN, and bearing in mind this thread was started to discuss domestic routes, must still be Flybe. When I spoke with them a couple of months ago they were still very interested in SEN as a hub similar to that at NWI, but wanted to bed-down the BACon takeover before firming up any potential plans for SEN. Perhaps we shall hear something towards the end of this summer.

Stansted to Luton with easyJet perhaps? :confused:

I did it as a passnger with easyJet a couple of years back, to pick up some parts for a 737 which had diverted to Copenhagen. The flaps can’t have been retracted for any more than 3 minutes!

Regards

John

Gill Airways operated BFS-BHD about 7-8 Years ago with an ATR-72.

The flight was routing BFS-BHD-NCL.

I remember a local new report that following a reporter who booked BFS-BHD to see iif t would save time in getting to Belfast City Centre from the Antrim area during Rush Hour.

Flight only lasted a short time before it was axed.

Brgds

Richard

Flight was scheduled not for the route but because the BHD aircraft did Royal Mail runs at night out of BFS so was seen as a sensible to let pax have option. They did for a short time run some purely scheduled BFS-BHD-NCL during day also.

What was the name of the 748 operator that did a few routes routing GLA-EDI then into Europe?

GLA-EDI was also operated by AirUK as part of a LGW-GLA-EDI-LGW flight. It was bookable but whether anyone ever did I don’t know. I did it several times on my way from GLA to LGW.

And wasn’t there a short lived GLA-EDI service in the 80’s run by Business Air or was it Burnthills Aviation, using an Embraer Bandeirante ???

the CEO of the airport said that SEN-AMS would be a great route to start off with, !

Think KLM Cityhopper would be great on that route with a F50,But I dont think it could happen as they are at nearby LCY;)

James

Wow. Thanks for the interest in this thread.

Southend is a nice little airport, I visited it once when they were holding a recruitment day. I was successful in getting a job, but at that time I believe they only had one flight a week on a Saturday afternoon to JER, which was operated by a Flybe Dash8-Q400. Don’t know whether any other airlines have announced any services since then, but I do know that the management of SEN are actively looking to attract more services from Flybe and other similar airlines as soon as their new £2m terminal and rail station is built. I remember reading an article about it in a magazine, the CEO of the airport said that SEN-AMS would be a great route to start off with, but I am not so sure because SEN does have some disadvantages:

1) It is within close proximity to Stansted, so services from SEN are going to have to be as cheap or cheaper in order to attract people from STN.

2) The length of the runway is limited to what type of aircraft can land there – they cannot accept a full 737-800!

3) The airport is also limited in ways it can expan further because although the local population are supportive of growth, they do not want to see it turn into a ‘major’ airport, and also there is the railway line that prohibits the expansion of the runway!

Try here for SEN info…

http://www.eastofenglandobservatory.org.uk/download.asp?id=14373

Wow. Thanks for the interest in this thread.

RDC1000 makes some brilliant points there…

Yes, they are all very good points indeed. When you think about it like that, it does kind of make sense as to why the train would be a better choice.

…and I can’t believe no one has already mentioned Southend!!!

Southend is a nice little airport, I visited it once when they were holding a recruitment day. I was successful in getting a job, but at that time I believe they only had one flight a week on a Saturday afternoon to JER, which was operated by a Flybe Dash8-Q400. Don’t know whether any other airlines have announced any services since then, but I do know that the management of SEN are actively looking to attract more services from Flybe and other similar airlines as soon as their new £2m terminal and rail station is built. I remember reading an article about it in a magazine, the CEO of the airport said that SEN-AMS would be a great route to start off with, but I am not so sure because SEN does have some disadvantages:

1) It is within close proximity to Stansted, so services from SEN are going to have to be as cheap or cheaper in order to attract people from STN.

2) The length of the runway is limited to what type of aircraft can land there – they cannot accept a full 737-800!

3) The airport is also limited in ways it can expan further because although the local population are supportive of growth, they do not want to see it turn into a ‘major’ airport, and also there is the railway line that prohibits the expansion of the runway!

ABZ to:

STN (PLEASE!!!!!)
LCY (if not STN)
CWL (why is it taking so long??)
DSA
BLK (may be a niche market if promoted & served properly)
BOH (as an alternative to SOU)

New domestic routes

Ok

Someone mentioned DSA earlier in the thread – perhaps DSA to

EDI
GLA
NQY
SOU

LBA works from the Scottish ones so maybe DSA would also. However this might just move pax from LBA to DSA as opposed to attract new pax, however DSA might be cheaper to land at than LBA??

HUY – Humberside to anywhere north or south
COV – Coventry to anywhere north or south

and I can’t believe no one has already mentioned Southend!!!

NCL could do some more domestic such as Newquay or Plymouth but not sure if the demand is there.
Maybe even a Norwich route but again is there any demand and EZY operate a STN.
A low cost to Cardiff and Birmingham would work well at Newcastle as these routes are served by Eastern and arnt cheap fares for Leisure passengers,
With alot of the ones travelling to Wales using EZY Bristol service.

I agree with that 100% i fly to see my girlfriend in Swansea often now and belive me paying for a train from bristol to newport then newport to swansea is getting expensive. A Low cost carrier flying to Cardiff would cut 2 hours of my total Journey time.

Also GLA-EDI was operated by BMI enroute to Copenhagen. Not bookable though.

GLA-EDI was also operated by AirUK as part of a LGW-GLA-EDI-LGW flight. It was bookable but whether anyone ever did I don’t know. I did it several times on my way from GLA to LGW.

Of the other routes suggested:

LON – BRS, BA Brymon
LON – BHX, Air Europe Express
LON – CWL, Air Wales
LON – EMA, British Midland
LGW – LBA, BA British Regional
LGW – MME, Gill Air

All dropped in due course.

1L.

Glasgow to Doncaster
Glasgow to Newcastle
Glasgow to Liverpool
Glasgow to Newquay

Glasgow to Newcastle -operated by Air Uk enroute to AMS then dropped. Glasgow to Liverpool opertaed by FlyBe then dropped. Glasgow to NQY in the pipeline.
Also GLA-EDI was operated by BMI enroute to Copenhagen. Not bookable though. Given its less than 50miles is unlikely to be. The tree huggers would go balistic.

BFS-BHD

Gill Airways operated BFS-BHD about 7-8 Years ago with an ATR-72.

The flight was routing BFS-BHD-NCL.

I remember a local new report that following a reporter who booked BFS-BHD to see iif t would save time in getting to Belfast City Centre from the Antrim area during Rush Hour.

Flight only lasted a short time before it was axed.

Brgds

Richard

LBA-MAN will do me just fine!

Paul

Glasgow to Doncaster
Glasgow to Newcastle
Glasgow to Liverpool
Glasgow to Newquay

….every time I flew the route is was over 90%.:(

But what was the average fare to attract that 90%. Perhaps what they really meant was, they are not attracting enough passengers at the fares they needed to charge. I don’t know for certain, just a guess.

Anyway, I’ve been thinking, and I’ve come up with some domestic routes to match Cloud9..

MAN – LBA (to avoid the M62)
MAN – LPL ( ” )
BHD – BFS
SOU – BOH
BRS – CWL
BHX – CVT

:diablo: :dev2: Sorry:D

UK domestic routes…?

I’m just waiting for MME to come up with something more positive than flights to the sun, if it wants to grow.
Afterall bmibaby did have MME-LGW before they pulled out due to low numbers(so they said), every time I flew the route is was over 90%.:(

i want EMA to SOU. that way, i can fly home from uni. sort it out flybe!

Sam