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UK Tempest restoration..

Just wondering if anyone knows the current state of the Tempest that’s being restored somewhere in the UK.
Is it something to do with Richard Grace?

I’m not overly familiar with the project…

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By: flyingblind - 21st March 2019 at 21:31

Not quite a flyer !!. Tempest MKV series 1. The whereabouts of this particular item were unknown for several years but it has recently been ‘recovered’

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By: David Burke - 20th March 2019 at 19:14

Very unlikely . I viewed the Ron Murphy parts amd don’t recall a cockpit.

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By: Vega ECM - 20th March 2019 at 11:42

Does anyone know where JN768 very rusty fuselage frame originated from?

Could it be the frame parts recovered in this dig at the former quarry at a Gloucestershire airfield (link below, Tempest frame visible at 1.03 and several times after) I believe this was organised by Ron Murphy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FR-ZNAxb30Y

Or does anyone what happened to the Tempest frame in the link?

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By: 1batfastard - 18th March 2019 at 19:37

Hi All,
Cannot see this recent update mentioned anywhere on the forum. The following from 04/03 courtesy:- http://hawkertyphoon.com/ Hawker Tempest Mk.V JN768 project has now been acquired by HTPG, there are three posts at least with pictures and info. http://www.facebook.com/hawkertyphoonRB396. This below from the web page:-

Hawker Tempest JN768 Acquisition.

2019 is shaping up to be a very exciting year for the project and the next few weeks especially so. At the Autumn Members’ Day in 2018, we launched a new fundraiser and set an initial target of £50,000. We would like to thank all of the members who were able to contribute to this call. With the proceeds of the fundraiser, we are delighted to be able to announce that the funds raised to date have allowed the project to purchase outright the remainder of the JN768 Tempest Project.

The Tempest Project had a complete set of jigs and fixtures for the main structure, which are compatible with RB396. To go with the jigs, there were significant sections of Tempest and a large number of ancillaries that can be used in the Typhoon. This purchase includes Hawker Tempest JN768, including the registration (G-TMPV) and full access to and use of the jigs when required by the rebuild of RB396, equating to a saving of approximately £200,000. JN768 is a Mk.V Series I Napier Sabre engined Tempest. She saw service during the Second World War on the south coast where she defended Britain from V-1 attack. As you can see in the image below, JN768 is credited with 15 confirmed V-1 victories.

This is an extensive purchase and we are delighted to announce that the majority of the parts are being collected by the team in early March and will be on display at the Spring Members’ Day to all who attend.
Our Members will be among the very first to see the acquired parts in person. The jigs themselves will not be on display as they will be arriving at a later date. All current members will have received an email with the details for the Spring Members’ Day. If you have not received the email, please contact the team using the contact form on the website. We will have much more happening on the Spring Members’ Day too, such as:

  • The launch of the 2019 Raffle and announcement of the prizes
  • Special guests and speakers that will be announced shortly
  • A full project update from the Team
  • Announcement on the next phase of work to be completed
  • And much more!

If you you are not already a member and would like to attend the Spring Members’ Day and see the latest acquisitions, then your first step is to join the Hawker Typhoon Preservation Group Supporters’ Club. If you are interested in joining, please click the ‘Join Now’ button below to view and purchase a membership that suits you, then you can register for the event.

We look forward to welcoming you to the Spring Members’ Day! http://hawkertyphoon.com/webshop/?pr…cat=membership

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JN768 Centre Section Tempest front spar—————————————————-Leading edge fuel tank and main fuel tanks

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4-Blade de-Havilland Hub

This from 15/03. (Pictures:-http://hawkertyphoon.com/jn768-collection-gallery/ )

On the 9th March 2019, the Team headed out to ‘somewhere in Essex’ to collect the majority of the JN768 Tempest Project. A van, a trailer and numerous cars collected where needed to pack up the assets of the project and transport it all down to Project HQ in Uckfield. The cockpit section will be collected later.

The collection also gave us opportunity to get a look at the jigs that will be vital for RB396’s restoration. The bright yellow jigs for the rear monocoque and tail are the main reason for the acquisition of JN768. While built for the Tempest Mk.V project, they are Typhoon compatible and having access to them represents a considerable saving to the project overall.

One of the more exciting items is a complete canopy frame with plexiglass. This canopy, which we popped on RB for the photos (and would sit much further forward on the fuselage), really shows the scale and size of the cockpit area. Along with the canopy, there is also a canopy winding mechanism attached to a cockpit panel. This panel and mechanism would sit on the side of the display cockpit we have that is open. All these elements, while coming from a Tempest, are Typhoon compatible and vital in the long run for the project.

Among the collection are Tempest undercarriage fairings, many undercarriage legs (from Tempests and Sea Furies), fuselage and wing skins, fuel tanks and a Tempest tail ‘fillet’. Other items include two four-blade propeller hubs, a Napier Sabre carburettor, manifold and supercharger, oxygen bottle and Tempest oil cooler.

Maybe the most striking parts of the collection is the forward cockpit cowling that displays the 15 V-1 kills. Getting up close to the markings, as you can see in the photo, you notice that each V-1 includes a red plume from its engine. These unmanned weapons were a terrifying weapon and the bravery of the crews that fought the dangerous V-1 engagements is one that is quietly championed by these markings.

Your opportunity to view all these parts, and hear all of the latest news, is coming up with our Spring Members’ Day. Members’ can reserve their place now via the link in the Spring Bulletin. If you did not receive the bulletin, please drop us an email or DM on our Facebook page and we will make sure you get it.

If you are not yet a member of the RB396 Supporters’ Club, and what to come along in April, there is plenty of time to join up and reserve your place. Your first step is to join the Supporters’ Club, which you can do by clicking the banner below the gallery. We look forward to welcoming all our Supporters to HQ soon!

Geoff.

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By: Meddle - 3rd July 2018 at 10:33

I’m not sure. I’ve never really ‘got into’ Tempests, but I have heard that their world is pretty closed off and secretive for whatever reason.

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By: D1566 - 3rd July 2018 at 10:28

Having a nosy around on hawkertempest.se, and I’m wondering if there is still Tempest relics sitting in the weeds in Poona, India, as there were in 1980 as photographed on the site. It looks like there was a relatively clean, but unidentified example, whose fate is unkown.

http://www.hawkertempest.se/index.ph…0/mkiisatpoona

Was it not said at the time that the airframes that were not brought back to the UK were scrapped at the behest of the buyer to avoid any dilution of the market?

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By: Meddle - 3rd July 2018 at 10:23

Having a nosy around on hawkertempest.se, and I’m wondering if there is still Tempest relics sitting in the weeds in Poona, India, as there were in 1980 as photographed on the site. It looks like there was a relatively clean, but unidentified example, whose fate is unkown.

http://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/survivors/2015-01-19-19-22-20/mkiisatpoona

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By: CeBro - 3rd July 2018 at 09:55

When visiting Solent Sky last wednesday I was amazed to see a Sabre on display.
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By: Lythronax - 3rd July 2018 at 07:44

From what I can imagine, there is very little of JN768 at all. I can’t really imagine how they’re going to secure a Sabre for their project unless one is built new, or they convince a museum to part with one.

Either way, 5 Tempests in the air possibly within the next decade is too exciting.

Edit: AND two Typhoons!

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By: TempestV - 3rd July 2018 at 07:31

Hi Vega,

You are right. MW763 is probably the most complete of the three though.

The Canadian example looks closest to completion.

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By: Vega ECM - 2nd July 2018 at 18:36

One being restored in the U.K. to fly ?

I get three;-
MW401 – G-PEST
MW763 – G-TEMP
JN768 – G-TMPV

All with Anglia Aviation ? Or is one with Grace?

Anyone know where JN768 Sabre would come from?

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By: KurtB - 2nd July 2018 at 17:33

They’ve cut it into tiny parts and selling it in the shop to pay for the next museum refit…?

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By: SADSACK - 2nd July 2018 at 17:28

What have the RAF Museum done with the one that was in Milestones?

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By: TempestV - 2nd July 2018 at 17:25

Exciting times for all Tempest fans!

With active airworthy restoration projects from:
Canada x1
UK x1
USA x4

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By: scotavia - 2nd July 2018 at 09:50

Thank you k 5054 nz for the link, very useful.

Heres a page devoted to Skyfame which was the custodian of LA 607, worth a read to understand how Skyfame was one of the few non public funded museums to seek out and preserve aircraft http://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/JetAgeRMCSkyfame.htm

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By: Zac Yates - 2nd July 2018 at 04:14

From memory Chris Miller’s is MW404.

MW376 is the former Kiwi, now Canadian, project.

The website http://hawkertempest.se is updated quite regularly and has exhaustive bios on each surviving airframe.

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By: Malcolm McKay - 2nd July 2018 at 02:47

Wonderful to see all those projects ticking along nicely.

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By: Whitley_Project - 2nd July 2018 at 02:06

I think Chris Miller in the USA has a Tempest

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By: 1batfastard - 1st July 2018 at 18:52

Hi All,
Funny enough I was web crawling the other day and came across these web pages. http://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/survivors/2015-01-19-19-22-20/mw3762

Hawker Tempest II – MW376 Restoration Faceache page:- Hawker Tempest II – MW376 Restoration

Photos page:-https://www.facebook.com/pg/Hawker-Tempest-II-MW376-Restoration-127964464230509/photos/?ref=page_internal

Interesting article on the history of Tempest MW3762:-http://www.kiwiflyer.co.nz/KiwiFlyer-Issue-30-Hawker-Tempest-Project.pdf

Kermits Tempests:-http://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/survivors/2015-01-19-19-22-20/ej6932

The UK Hawker Tempest II MW763 (G-TEMT) :-http://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/survivors/2015-01-19-19-22-20/mw7633

Their Faceache page only one post 2016 (Courtesy of Matthew Smith) concerning the Tmepest looks like a long term project but it’s obviously in 1st class hands:-https://www.facebook.com/WealdAviationServices/posts/1284820054878350

Just for interest:-https://www.facebook.com/WealdAviationServices/?hc_ref=ARSxUzmFyzACp74PiDG-dydUWjKL0bX1eyzYEJxbRJc75e4RlXWz21N3h0jnqED021A

This web page always good for a gander for Tempest projects and survivors i.e the above three.:-http://www.hawkertempest.se/index.php/survivors/2015-01-19-19-22-20/mw4043

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By: Zac Yates - 30th June 2018 at 03:54

The New Zealand F.2 became the Canadian F.2 a few years back after the death of the then-owner. I think it’s been in Canada for at least two years.

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