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Uncertain future of Major Bannatyne's RFC War Memorial

Cirencester’s old hospital to be demolished to make way for parking
Wilts and Gloucestershire Standard |
THE Old Memorial Hospital in Cirencester will be torn down to make way for more parking.
The move will create around 19 new spaces and is part of a wider scheme to bring a multi-storey car park to the hospital, Old Station or Waterloo car park.

Inside the hospital I know from the past is:-
http://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/45136
War Memorial 45136 Maj E J Bannatyne. … Location (OLD MEMORIAL HOSPITAL), Sheep Street, Cirencester, Cotswold, Gloucestershire, England

The Old Memorial Hospital Cirencester Facebook
Major Edgar Bannatynne who died in the Memorial Hospital 1917 after a plane crash. His family donated the lovely stairs in the Memorial Hospital in his memory. Lots of us have climbed those stairs many times – Happy Days (and nights) Nurse D

From my past research:- In Archives
Lieut. E. Bannatyne PUPIL WHO LAST WEEK SECURED HIS BREVET AT THE BEATTY SCHOOL, HENDON 1915 (Picture of him in aircraft )

SEPTEMBER 20, 1917 FLIGHT MAGAZINE ‘CASUALTIES’
‘’Major EDGAR JAMES BANNATYNE, D.S.O., R.F.C. and Hussars, whose death was the result of an aeroplane accident in “England, was the only son of Mr. and Mrs. A. E. Bannatyne, of Glen Bevan, Crocm, Co. Limerick. He was educated at Wellington College and Caius College, Cambridge. He joined the 19th Hussars in 1913, and went to France with that regiment in August, 1914. He returned to England in November of the same year on sick leave, during which time he took out his flying certificate. He was in the Experimental Flight at Upavon until February, 1916, when he was sent to Egypt, where he took part in the Darfur Expedition as a flight commander, for which he was awarded the D S.O. He was afterwards given a squadron at Ismailia, and proceeded later to El Arish. He returned to England last June, and met with his fatal accident while flying at Cirencester on August 30th. He died on September 9th. He was 26 years of age’’.

FATAL ACCIDENTS. FLIGHT MAGAZINE 1917 (ADVOCATING THE FUTURE USE OF PARACHUTES)
There is much food for reflection in Mr. Calthrop’s letter, and if any emphasis were required as to under what conditions the functions of a ” Guardian Angel ” parachute might usefully be employed, it is to be found in the following report in a morning paper on September 3rd, of an air incident :— ” Major Bannatyne, D.S.O., who fell with a burning aeroplane on Thursday and was admitted to Cirencester Red Cross Hospital, Was slightly better yesterday than the day before, but at a late hour was still in a critical condition. ” Up alone, his engine failed at 1,000 ft., and the machine, falling, took fire. The flames reaching his legs, he climbed out of his seat and along the body of the machine to the tail. The flames caught him again and he slipped down the frame and hung by his hands. Even there the heat was almost unbearable, but just before the machine was smashed on a shed he swung clear and landed on some freshly dug ground. He is suffering from severe shock, a broken arm, and cuts about the face, head, and body.”]

SEPTEMBER 6, 1917
Major E. J. Bannatyne, D.S.O., R.F.C., died at Cirencester Hospital, on September 9th, from the effects of an accident on August 30th. His machine caught fire, but he brought it nearly to the ground, and jumped clear, being badly burnt, and otherwise injured. Tetanus was the cause of death. Buried at nearby North Cerney . Was stationed at Rendcomb Airfield. (Photos of both).

UK War Memorials Archive Reference 45136

Maj E J Bannatyne
WM reference
45136
Memorial type
Subject/Period
• First World War (1914-1918)
Current location
(OLD MEMORIAL HOSPITAL)
Sheep Street
Cirencester
Cotswold
Gloucestershire
England
OS Grid Ref.: SP 020 010
Denomination: Undefined
Description
LARGE OAK STAIRCASE.(Picture)

4TH August 2017 I have previously contacted War Graves Commission- Two relatives(via research)-Head of Parking Project – Cotswold District Council-Historic Trust- but still the future of Major Bannatyne’s Memorial remains in doubt- Now ran out of options so quite concerned as to what is the future is for his memorial. Terry.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 14th February 2018 at 11:21

Great news and a fitting (re)location to boot.

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By: declan hehir - 14th February 2018 at 11:07

We are delighted to report that the the Memorial stairs will be returning to his native home in Limerick, where it will be in public view in the new war Museum in St Muchins Church. The burial ground of the Bannatyne family is next to the church. If you need more information please contact us. we are available on [email]info@hehirfoto.com[/email] [ATTACH=CONFIG]258925

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By: AIRSHOWS FAN - 6th August 2017 at 22:45

Lt Bannantyne !915 at Hendon /Flight Magazine archives

Lt Bannantyne 1915 /Flight Magazine

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By: AIRSHOWS FAN - 6th August 2017 at 22:40

MAJOR BANNANTYNES RFC LISTED MEMORIAL

Photo of Major Bannatyne’s Memorial

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By: AIRSHOWS FAN - 6th August 2017 at 04:17

Rocketeer#2 Thank you so much for understanding much appreciated. Mr Saunders has now contacted me (see#8) and I have now sent off to him what he requested. I hope it is satisfactory presented for him. Anyhow thanks again Terry

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By: AIRSHOWS FAN - 6th August 2017 at 04:09

Tangmere1940#8 Thank you so much. I have now sent what you requested (inc photos) I hope it is satisfactory for you . Major Bannantyne is also in the War Graves Webpage and there is also a picture of the church and cemetery (by them ) where he is at rest of which I visit. Terry

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By: Arabella-Cox - 5th August 2017 at 23:01

Send me some details (to [email]andy.saunders@britainatwar.com[/email] and we will be happy to give this story some coverage!

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By: J Boyle - 5th August 2017 at 18:08

Given the number of associations, groups, clubs, societies and charities for every imaginable interest, vocation and hobby…
I’m guessing there is a architectural preservation group that if nothing else, may have ideas or contacts.

Perhaps start by contacting the local National Trust office or University Architectural department.

My nephew graduated in architecture from a school in Oxford and has worked with specialist firms doing restoration/preservation/re-purpose work and has told me many firms do that work. Usually, they restore/repurpose entire buildings, but if nothing else, they’ll know who might need and appreciate the historic nature of the staircase (providing the owners will allow it to be salvaged).

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By: AIRSHOWS FAN - 5th August 2017 at 14:18

Just an old staircase#5-architectural salvage #3 Where have heard all this before- if you guys now knowing the story about Major Bannantyne’s memorial and still see it as just an inanimate object to be discarded at random then like others I feel sorry for both of you. But please take comfort from the fact that this is also the sentiments, I feel, that has caused me to now run out options. Not that I am going to give up. Terry

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By: hampden98 - 5th August 2017 at 08:49

I don’t think it realistic you could preserve a staircase unless of course someone wants an old staircase.
Why not save a section of wood, make it into a memorial and present it to a museum?

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By: AIRSHOWS FAN - 5th August 2017 at 08:32

aeronut2008#3 Your ‘Architectural Salvage’ analysis? Then better still as a quick fire solution why not just use it as firewood instead – problem solved. Terry

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By: Arabella-Cox - 5th August 2017 at 06:17

Can’t it be treated as archetechtural salvage until someone who wants a ‘large oak staircase’ is found?
Bannatyne hasn’t been completely forgotten, his name appears on the memorial to all those who have died whilst serving in Army flying units to be unveiled at Middle Wallop next month.

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By: Rocketeer - 5th August 2017 at 03:22

Thanx for bringing this to the forum. I hope something can be done to at least preserve something. Maybe an online petition? Getting RAFM involved? Chatting to Andy Saunders editor Britain at War and grey beard of this quarter!

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