Unknown cockpit

It could have started as a Test Shell, I do recall seeing Jetstream 41 Noses @ the Prestwick Factory, After its life as a Test Shell was finished that is when it was converted to a Procedures Trainer.

There will be a reason for its removal from the line. The fuselage is a very critical and expensive piece of engineering and it is very unlikely they would sacrifice a whole fuselage or large nose section just to have a cockpit which could, if required, have been made up by the woodwork department for such a non-critical role as training people in the layout of the controls.

However, there must be some allowance for the production of such sections for simulators, etc. Perhaps ex-test or prototype parts or even sections built by apprentices. Anyone in the industry or ex-industry who could comment?

Anon.

It’s unusual: removing a cockpit from a production line just so it could be used for a procedures trainer.

That’s supposedly the same ‘back-story’ to the Victor cockpit that’s just been taken on loan by Newark. :confused:

It’s unusual: removing a cockpit from a production line just so it could be used for a procedures trainer.

The cockpit is built as one with the whole fuselage on the 748 so I’m wondering if the section suffered damage or failed inspection whilst on the production line, and was removed. The cockpit would have then had to be cut off as there is no manufacturer’s joint between it and the rest of the tube, the rest, presumably, being scrapped.

It will have been allocated a production number but, as Bob says, no serial.

How is the Twin Pin settling in then, Bob?

Anon.

Thanks a lot for that Bob, it clears it up nicely for me.

Its on the borderline of whether its viable or not I would say !

This one never had an identity. It was removed from the production line before it was finished, used for training purposes and never flew. It would have had a production number which will be lost to the mists of time but at no point was there a G-… number allocated to it. All this from a chap who worked in the factory and remembers it being diverted from the line and it’s subsequent use. Joe Public believes all this when we tell them, but the enthusiasts don’t….

Someday we hope to reunite it with the chunk removed from it’s side by AST at Perth and put it on display. Until then, it will serve as a good way for enthusiasts to torture themselves on forums trying to identify it until we get it off site.

Bob

Thanks for the replies folks, so we are still really none the wiser to an identity for this HS.748!

Cheers

This section of aircraft has also been discussed at length on: http://www.derbosoft.proboards.com/thread/11038/hs-748-procedure-trainer same detail photos, different discussion, but with some of the same participants!

A different Brian, this one from Liverpool.

Hi,

You’ll find all you need in an earlier thread –

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?120663-HS-748-Procedural-Trainer

Or an unfinished ATP ?

That was quick, thanks Brian. Any ideas of the identity of it?

HS-748

Brian

Thanks both for your help!

Martin

id say you were bang on with that 🙂

http://www.airliners.net/photo/0107695/

Cockpit

Canadair CL-215?