Unknown European B-17s

Here is a photo of F-BGSO of the Musee del’Air.

I believe the aircraft may be in store and was not destroyed in the fire of 1990.

http://members.cox.net/b17brian/b17/Museedel’Air/index.htm

Information seems to be correct, also registered as F-BGSO.

I have my doubts about the correctness of the German registration. As far as I know, civilian flying wasn’t allowed in post-WW2 Germany until 1955 and even at that time the registration range “D-E…” was for single-engined aircraft with a MTOW < 2000 kg only, as it is today.

Well, dear friends !

Thank You, Newforest, for Your answer about F-BGSO. And I would like to know more about OO-SPO and D-EGBE.
Thanks !
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Dear Kenneth !

I agree with You – this German registration is some strange…
I think, it must to be D-AGBE at least (as “multi-engine aircraft with MTOW over 20 000 kg), isn’t it ?

And I never heard about the post-war interdict on civil flying in Germany…
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Flyer.

SOC Jun 1954 at Olmsted AFB. To civil registry as N9642B, to D-EGBE, to OO-SPO. On Aug 12, 1954
to Institut Geographique National of France as F-BGSO

So in a period of less than 2 1/2 months, this aircraft goes from being struck off charge, to the US civil register, then to Germany, then to Belgium and finally winds up in France?

Highly unlikely, I’d say, and another clue that not all is well here.

Thanks for posting that excerpt, Newforest, couldn’t be bothered to browse through the list myself 😉

Save you all scanning that looong list!

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I’d wager that Mr Baugher made a typo in the registration when checking that B-17’s previous identity…[/QUOTE]

8889 (c/n 8289) accepted by the USAAF on 31 January 1945 at Hunter Field in Georgia,
assigned 8th AF (stored), assigned Apr 8, 1949 to 7499th BS at Wiesbaden, Germany. Converted
to RB-17G Oct. 14, 1949. Stored Olmsted AFB Sep 17, 1953 . Converted to QB-17G Apr 1954 –
SOC Jun 1954 at Olmsted AFB. To civil registry as N9642B, to D-EGBE, to OO-SPO. On Aug 12, 1954
to Institut Geographique National of France as F-BGSO, it was heavily modified by the
IGN for survey work. Donated Sep 8, 1976 to the Musee de l’Air in Le Bourget near
Paris, France for display, last reported (Dec. 2000) in storage.
8891 transferred to Brazilian Air Force. Withdrawn from service in 1967.

Ex N9642B, D-EGBE, OO-SPO
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1040532/

A Cessna 180 (fits D-E…) with the registration

F-BSGO

To civil registry as N9642B, to D-EGBE, to OO-SPO
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/1944_1.html

F-BGSO

I’d wager that Mr Baugher made a typo in the registration when checking that B-17’s previous identity…

Ex N9642B, D-EGBE, OO-SPO
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1040532/
:confused:
To civil registry as N9642B, to D-EGBE, to OO-SPO
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/1944_1.html

Here is a photo of F-BGSO of the Musee del’Air.

I believe the aircraft may be in store and was not destroyed in the fire of 1990.

http://members.cox.net/b17brian/b17/Museedel’Air/index.htm

…one from 2008
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomtom78/4008507769/sizes/o/
and one from 2009
http://aero.passion1.perso.neuf.fr/1000/cerm163.jpg

and have a look here
http://forum.armyairforces.com/fb.ashx?m=152973

Still no luck with photos then! Your B-17 is confirmed as being in the Museum’s reserve collection:)

http://www.pyperpote.tonsite.biz/julien_villiere/inventaire_mae_novembre_2009_pour_pyperpote.pdf

There is no record of D-AGBE.

Unknown European B-17s

Dear colleagues !

Thank You all for Your active participation in our discussion !
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I have written the letter to owners of http://www.aerovintage.com/ site, because I consider, they are real specialists and experts in B-17’s history.

Mister Scott Thompson from that site has sent answer to me. He has kindly allowed me to share the information from his message with my Forum’s colleagues.

Quote from Mr Thompson’s message:

“I … think it is clear that the current F-BGSO, a Cessna 180, has a civil registry history trail that includes the D-EGBE and OO-SPO registrations… They are not part of the B-17G F-BGSO history. It was accidently tagged onto the B-17G history by mistake.

For the record, 44-8889 was in active USAF service until August 1954, dropped from the USAF inventory in November 1954, and transferred to the French IGN in December 1954 (along with B-17G 44-8846). It held no civil registrations until F-BGSO was assigned…”

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(*Here “IGN” is the abbreviation for French L’institut Géographique National (National Geographical Institute)) – remark by Flyer.

Now I think, all became clear with unknown European B-17s, and this thread possible to close.

Let’s thank dear Mr Scott Thompson once again for his invaluable help with this subject !
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Best wishes,
Flyer.