Unknown Part

Wow, not only were you able to id the aircraft type but also which engine!!

100% convinced

I had an Eureka moment at 6 am this morning.

It is absolutely not a Halifax Oil Cooler inlet. They are all elliptical.

It is ……

A Halifax Oil Cooler Outlet.

A quick google search showed the part on the Trenton bird. :):):)

It also confirms it to be an outer engine Oil Cooler Outlet. 5th pic along

http://www.martinsammodels.com/Webpage/Pages/Real%20Aviation/Walkarounds/Halifax/Halifax.htm

Thanks to all for you help.

Foray – Thanks – the hinges were steel but the brackets were definitely alu.

Oil cooler flap

Brian,

If you need an additional check, attached is a picture of a flap from one of the oil coolers from Halifax RG475 similarly bent. See your earlier posting #10 and my #12. Max dimensions are 13.5″ width (around the curve) and 6.2″ length fore & aft. The remains of the cowling are also squashed; they are not to hand at present and so I’m not able to check for half/full circle intake shape. Interestingly the two attachment points on this one are badly rusted steel but yours, from the pictures, look aluminium.

Geoff

Elliot – it has definitely been in a crash and squidged. I have spent several hours with it today trying to find its true shape.

It is difficult to show in the photographs – it has retained its main shape due to a thick inner piece (3 to 4 mm thick) that still define the squashed half circle. It was never intended to bend over to a full ellipse – the outer front inlet edge finishes at the upper edge – it never formed a full circle.

It has two wings with Dzus that would mean it was mounted onto the fuselage at that point. They were not bent round to join two halves of an ellipse together.

It is definitely not the same piece as on the Trenton and Elvington Halifax as they are full ellipses with the front proud and lower from the cowl.

I dont dispute that it is from a Halifax – but I am sorry – as a scientist I am always seeking evidence.

I just would like to see a photograph of this type of inlet on a Halifax to be that additional 10% sure.

It’s been in a crash Brian – don’t expect it to have all the curves in the right places – it’s from a Halifax.

Not a Stirling mk 1 or mk 5 from what I can see..

hmm stirling??

Chaps – been persuading the part back into shape. I have taken out the flap temporarily. It is still work in progress.

However – It does not appear to be the full circle inlet that the Trenton and Elvington Halifax have.

It appears to be a flat upper edged shape with dzus wings to attach to the underside of the cowling.

Were there several types of inlet used on Halifax?

I can see that the Wellington shape was squarer and the Lancaster more flat circular. But these are just individual photos.

Edit – perhaps I should rephrase this – can someone show me a pic a of a Halifax with this type of air inlet please ?

No luck on finding any crashed records at Waren Muritz.

Its a long shot to get anything definitive – but I got this answer

The piece comes from Brandenburg near Waren Müritz

Ref post #12, the inspection stamp next to the part number is EEP227 (in circle) confirming the link with English Electric for that particular piece. You might get lucky, when yours arrives, with a similar stamp to reveal the manufacturer. Just one step closer to an id.

Mike I will ask the seller where he got it from.

If there is anything known -I will post the details.

Brian
I thought Beaufighter too, but what diameter is it?
It`s almost certainly a British insection stamp. Could DMP be D…… Motor Panels perhaps?

Pete

Duple ??

Purely speculative – Duple were part of the LAPG,but of course there were probably hundreds of sub contractors :).
Park Royal Coachworks did manufacture cowlings I believe but I could not make that fit into DMP LOL

Part

There must be pieces like this all over Western Europe from exploded and shot-down bombers.

Any clue as to the geographical area from which it originated, Brian, i.e., could it be pinned down to a particular crash-site or aircraft?

Anon.

Looks like Hercules Halifax oil cooler intake.
The part number on the inner controlling flap on an English Electric built MkVIII Halifax is A61210HA12 G99730
Very close to the number on one of your photos (far right) which I assume is the actuating arm attachment point to that flap.
Post #10 shows the flap.

Sounds pretty conclusive to me!

Pete

Thank you Chaps – I took a gamble – but I had guessed it might be an RAF Bomber.

Thanks for all the confirmation.

Halifax 🙂

Looks like Hercules Halifax oil cooler intake.
The part number on the inner controlling flap on an English Electric built MkVIII Halifax is A61210HA12 G99730
Very close to the number on one of your photos (far right) which I assume is the actuating arm attachment point to that flap.
Post #10 shows the flap.

Type

Not sure how the dimensions tally but could it be an Avro Manchester engine cowling side scoop?

Anon

I am afraid it is still in the post – so no side profile yet

This is the inside view.

Did the cooler have this flap on a stick to open/close ?

Is this what you propose on the lower of the Hercules powered Lancaster ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lancaster_B_Mark_II_of_115_Squadron_RAF_1943_IWM_CH_19792.jpg

The same one on the Wellington is a square profile.

I’m also thinking Hercy oil cooler….

Any chance of a profile shot Brian?