November 26, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Hi all,
While I fathom out how to re-find my Photobucket account I’ll post details of two wheels and tyres I found in an outhouse at a premises I was at yesterday. I think they may be aviation related and as they are not far from the old West Malling airfield this is possible although they are not of great diameter.
They have ‘solid centres’ with a hole of an axle through the centre below which on one side is a recessed housing with the air valve in. The disc on the reverse side appears to clip in with a ‘circlip’ type arrangement so I guess contains brakes inside. The wheels bear a stamped in serial number in the below format on the outer disc.
Serial No
L (?) F 82089/A(?) not sure of the L or A
They also bear the following markings on the outer disc again stamped in
I (following appears in a circle) BR800
DRG no
AH8023
ISSUE 4
The tyres appear to be size 9 – 75 – 8
Under the size appears the words ‘Electrically Conducting’
Any idea what they may be from?
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th November 2012 at 11:27
In my copy of the Hotspur Mk II AP the wheels are given as AH8041/1.
That’s the one! I’m sat at work and only have the early AP2092 up to AL2 which is what gives it as AH2288/1. I can’t recall which AL switched it to AH8041/1. Any idea what the difference in the two wheels are?
As an aside, Hotspurs were down in Kent; early in 1944 some RCAF Spitfire squadrons were experimenting with towing Hotspurs with their Spitfires. The idea was to use the gliders as transports for fuel, ammo, spares and the Servicing parties on the Sqns jumps from ALG to ALG.
I know one of the Hotspurs used was a 3 GTS machine which was picked up from RAF Northleach and taken to Biggin Hill. There was a few Norwegians as well at 3 GTS there to “have a go” – to what end I don’t know.
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th November 2012 at 10:46
In my copy of the Hotspur Mk II AP the wheels are given as AH8041/1.
As an aside, Hotspurs were down in Kent; early in 1944 some RCAF Spitfire squadrons were experimenting with towing Hotspurs with their Spitfires. The idea was to use the gliders as transports for fuel, ammo, spares and the Servicing parties on the Sqns jumps from ALG to ALG.
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th November 2012 at 10:25
Not Stirling Tail Wheels,They`re too small and would be numbered AH2282.My list says your wheels are fitted to : Warwick 3,4 and 6,Brigand TF Mk1,Met Mk3,B.Mk.1,T.Mk.5,Buckingham C.Mk1,Buckmaster,Frieghter,C. 202 and Hotspur1,2 and 3.
I think you’ll find those tyres are a wee bit big for a Hotspur. Hotspur was fitted with AH2288/1 originally. I think there was a change later on but don’t have the number to hand.
By: Dave G - 29th November 2012 at 01:35
Interesting – I’ll dig out my West Malling book although it is only a stones throw it doesn’t mean they should automatically be connected I suppose.
By: hindenburg - 27th November 2012 at 21:23
Not Stirling Tail Wheels,They`re too small and would be numbered AH2282.My list says your wheels are fitted to : Warwick 3,4 and 6,Brigand TF Mk1,Met Mk3,B.Mk.1,T.Mk.5,Buckingham C.Mk1,Buckmaster,Frieghter,C. 202 and Hotspur1,2 and 3.
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th November 2012 at 18:41
Hamilcar mainwheel to be AH8053,
Well that confirms that the two wheels leaning against the Hamilcar fuselage at Middle Wallop are the correct wheels. Thanks Air Min.
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I really do need to clean the axle and mount the wheels on the legs.
By: ericmunk - 27th November 2012 at 16:40
Not sure why they made me think stirling..?
Easy: Stirlings also used big black round rubbery things to land on 😀
By: Peter - 27th November 2012 at 15:24
Not sure why they made me think stirling..?
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th November 2012 at 10:13
Ooops, actually I’m wrong.
Aeronut’s post had me do a quick double check of my “master list” spreadsheet and obviously I’ve done some sloppy editing at some point, as clearly, a Lancaster doesn’t share the same tailwheel as an Oxford!
Having now re-aligned the columns, I get a Hamilcar mainwheel to be AH8053, and tailwheel AH10223, which is common to various Wellingtons. Checking the Hamilcar A.P., these two entries are correct.
The list now gives me AH8023 as Horsa, Brigand, Buckingham, and Warwick tailwheel.
I’ll have to do some random checking of other entries to ensure everything is correctly aligned and that’ll teach me to cut and paste whole rows, not just columns!
Apologies for the confusion Dave G, and I don’t suppose that makes the West Malling connection any easier to understand?
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th November 2012 at 08:38
Lovely! Hamilcar tail wheels.
As I understand it the Hamilcar had a Wellington’s tailwheel and leg.
By: David Burke - 27th November 2012 at 00:00
Probably off a farm trailer so probably of no local significance i.e bought for purpose.
By: Dave G - 26th November 2012 at 22:48
Wow really? That’s interesting – I wonder how they got where they are. I presumed the close proximity to West Malling may mean they came off a type from there but I’m not aware the Hamilcars operated out of there. Stands to be shot down!
By: Arabella-Cox - 26th November 2012 at 22:39
Lovely! Hamilcar tail wheels.
By: Dave G - 26th November 2012 at 22:17


