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Can anyone identify not only the part but the aircraft typefrom the part number on the plate? This is all I have to go on so far…

The plane crashed in 1945 in a river named Haringvliet near to us. This is the number showing up on the plate. G.L.M. ASSEM 192–1628 A10623.

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By: Bomberboy - 23rd December 2008 at 20:15

More photo’s and information. Looks like it might be a B24 Liberator..

I am quite sure now that it is the B24j RR-H+ serialnumber 44-40109 after what you have send to me. There where some eye- witness who had seen comming down a big 4 engine airplane.

If my knowledge is up to it, I would say that it is not necessarily a specific B-24 part if even fitted to a B-24 and in fact may not even be American.
The assembly number you give does not tie into my understanding of B-24 part numbers.
Normally a B-24 specific part would, I believe, precede with the number 32.
ie; 32-XXXX-XX.
Of course common fitted parts would be labelled otherwise, but this part looks to be an aeroplane specific part.
Also, as I understand it, an American rivetted on assembly number such as this, would normally involve it being a more fuller data plate with the assembly’s manufacturers detail on it and would not even be rivetted to what looks like an exterior skin.
Where American parts don’t have a data plate as such, then generally what you find is the assembly number stamped straight onto or painted onto the parts surface directly.
I am aware that a B-17 specific assembly is preceded by the number 15.
ie; 15-XXXX-XX.
I don’t know why these numbers are the way they are, but they just are.

I hope this helps if even to just eliminate it.

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By: Peter - 23rd December 2008 at 18:07

UPDATE

More photo’s and information. Looks like it might be a B24 Liberator..

Here some more foto’s of the part.
I am quite sure now that it is the B24j RR-H+ serialnumber 44-40109 after what you have send to me. There where some eye- witness who had seen comming down a big 4 engine airplane.

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By: Whitley_Project - 23rd December 2008 at 17:58

Looks American to me Peter

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By: Peter - 22nd December 2008 at 14:12

Thanks very much NC900. That might be one possiblity. I will let him know.

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By: NC900 - 22nd December 2008 at 07:32

G.L.M. = Glenn L. Martin… but is that the G.L.M. we are looking for ?
and just a guess, could it be part of a turret…or any component made by Glenn L. Martin for Consolidated ? from a B-24J for exemple.

Could it be from this Liberator ?

14th Feb 1945 – B-24J – #44-40109 – RR-H+ – Haringvliet/Brielle – 16:30
389th BG – Circle ‘C’ – 566th BS – 1st Lt. J. Weiss – MACR #12340
1 KIA – 8 POW
Missing aircrew report from 44-40109:
http://www.footnote.com/image/28682263/numbers%7c12340%7cReport%7cNumber%7creports/#28682263
or try this page :
http://www.footnote.com/browse.php#All|28682236
nose art of 44-40109:
http://www.b24bestweb.com/unstablemabel.htm

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By: Cees Broere - 22nd December 2008 at 06:49

Peter,

The Haringvliet is in the Netherlands but a F100 in 1945
would be a bit futuristic.

Interesting though.

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By: gregv - 22nd December 2008 at 06:24

Did any part of an F-100 have raised rivets? Or is this the backside of the part shown in the photo? Drop tank perhaps? It does seem like it could have come from a float, or maybe a rivited construction aluminum boat?

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By: Alan Clark - 22nd December 2008 at 01:05

From Craig Fuller’s index, http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/partaircraft.htm, 192- was the prefix used on North American F-100 parts, it makes sense as NAA had a habit of putting ASSM in front of their part numbers.

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By: Peter - 22nd December 2008 at 00:59

I have asked him to take some pictures of the backside in case theres paint or other to go on..

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By: old shape - 22nd December 2008 at 00:37

Not sure about that, It looks aircraft related to me?

Oops, sorry, I didn’t mean that it was a boat part, yes it sure looks like an aeropart. But, it could have had marine bits in it such as a float plane for example? I’m brainstorming because we have little to go on.

edit………it could also stand for Grenade Launcher Module?

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By: Peter - 21st December 2008 at 23:50

Not sure about that, It looks aircraft related to me?

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By: old shape - 21st December 2008 at 23:46

Can anyone identify not only the part but the aircraft typefrom the part number on the plate? This is all I have to go on so far…

The plane crashed in 1945 in a river named Haringvliet near to us. This is the number showing up on the plate. G.L.M. ASSEM 192–1628 A10623.

Maybe not much use but here goes: –
GLM Assembly. Isn’t GLM a marine engine maker?

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