This is the next unknown.
My feeling is that it is Russian as the stamps are extremely few and far between ( only a 60 and 63 so far). I am sure if I strip it down completely I will find 61 and 62 as well.
The parts are mainly metric (although is 25mm hole a metric or imperial dimension ?)
However – there are traces of Green and Black paint on the outside. The Black being limited to one edge only.
The black edge has a blister as well as some ferrous remains. I suspect it is a gun port. The ferrous for the heat ablation and the blister for the gun doohfernnanas.
I have looked through all Russian and German fighters – most of the Russian had gun blisters – but none match – Closest was La3
Inside I have found a piece with a painted number on it – a 3 with a further number 3 worn away next to it.
Not sure if this was a night fighter with lower black edges and guns on bottom Or
A propellor fighter with black top deck and guns firing through prop.
In both cases these are usually Dzus fastened cowls – and this has none
What is also confusing me is that there is a metal bracket internally – which would work as a pivot/hinge – as there is metal below it – it would not work
As It came from Hungary – I have also checked most of the German, Italian and Russian lend lease aircraft as well. The use of stainless suggests US.
It could also be post war.
Any Ideas ?
By: FarlamAirframes - 22nd October 2011 at 11:52
Yes !
Came from Hungary – no other information.
Several complete parts have no inspectors stamps or part numbers.
Only two stamps on complete piece
By: Arabella-Cox - 22nd October 2011 at 11:35
IF this part is of Russian origin it has to be post war; I cannot think of any wartime design this could fit. Also, the construction details are certainly not wartime Russian, or perhaps Russian at all (the rivets do not resemble their usual ones, for example).
Am I correct to think that, in fact, this part could be from anywhere?
By: FarlamAirframes - 22nd October 2011 at 10:26
Thank you chaps!
Geoff I will explore these options.
There is a trace of wood/melamine under the screws at the front edge.
Doesn’t appear to be a P39 or a Pe2 from the pics here:
But some very nice pics of “unusual” Russian types outside at Monino
http://picasaweb.google.com/Monino.2002/CentralAirForceMuseumMoninoRussia#
By: bearoutwest - 22nd October 2011 at 09:04
If you suspect that it’s a US build fighter – P-39/P-63 is a natural choice. The VVS used large numbers of them. A small number of P-51A’s were also used, which if based on the original Mustang I airframe nose-section may have had the lower fuselage guns faired-over. (Can’t quite tell which way is up on the segments.)
Are you sure it’s a cowling over an engine? Straight edges indicate a possibility of glass framing at front of twin-engined aircraft – in which case Douglas Boston.Havoc or Pe-2 were used by VVS and would have had a fixed gun trough/blister possibly faired-over.
…geoff
By: Bager1968 - 22nd October 2011 at 06:03
All I can add is that 25.4 mm = 1″.
By: FarlamAirframes - 21st October 2011 at 16:14
Still looking.
Very similar to the blister and gun mount on a Fiat G50 – but not the right shape.
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