December 7, 2005 at 9:35 am
I went to LHR yesterday to try out my new camera I bought when I was in Orlando, and my shots (see below) are not good! 😮 😮 😮
Can anyone offer any advice/suggestions as to what I can do to improve for the future…
For anyone that wants to know, they were taken using a Vivitar Vivicam 4100, which I know is probably the worst camera in the world, but it was the only one I could afford, and was also significantly better than my previous camera!
Regards,
cloud_9
By: Future Pilot - 28th December 2005 at 23:04
Canon 350D with Sigma 70-300mm F4-5.6 lens is doing me fine so far! 😀
By: cloud_9 - 26th December 2005 at 13:33
Okay, but you say “in the bus stop”. I don’t know the bus stop, it is just that if you were inside it, it might have a glass or perspex roof or sides, and these would probably affect the focusing system on your camera. Some auto focussing systems cannot see through solid objects, no matter how transparent they are.
Hi, sorry I haven’t replied for a while…
Basically, it was a average bus shelter with a roof, I stood infront of it to take the pictures…and I used my LCD screen on the back of my camera to gauge when to take the photo because I do not have a viewfinder…
I have recently got a part-time job in Jessops, photo shop, so I may well look to get a better camera in the Sale…? Any recommendations at all?
By: RobAnt - 11th December 2005 at 17:11
Okay, but you say “in the bus stop”. I don’t know the bus stop, it is just that if you were inside it, it might have a glass or perspex roof or sides, and these would probably affect the focusing system on your camera. Some auto focussing systems cannot see through solid objects, no matter how transparent they are.
By: cloud_9 - 10th December 2005 at 11:24
mmmm – you didn’t try shooting through the perspex of the bus stop did you?
No. I was standing in the bus stop, but had clear view of aircraft as they came in… they passed over head as they landed on 9R! 😀
By: RobAnt - 9th December 2005 at 18:49
mmmm – you didn’t try shooting through the perspex of the bus stop did you?
By: cloud_9 - 9th December 2005 at 11:07
The shutterspeeds are indeed way to low; I even noticed 1/19 sec!! Another problem could be that your camera is not focussing correctly. In the EXIF’s I noticed that the recorded subject distance was only 10.0 meters!
Just shows how s**t my camera really is…it only cost me $150 (£85-90)!
By: cloud_9 - 9th December 2005 at 11:06
You have camera movement which is different then slow shutter speed – but can be a result of slow shutter speed. You get the same effect if you use digital or film camera. Your (the camera) moving faster then your subject matter is moving.
I can’t change the shutter speed of my camera, but what you say above maybe my problem, ‘cos I was at the bus stop at the start of 9R and followed the aircraft with my camera as it came into land, and then took the photo…is this a possible problem?
If so, do you suggest I keep the camera in one spot and then capture the image as it passes…?
By: Jur - 9th December 2005 at 08:28
The shutterspeeds are indeed way to low; I even noticed 1/19 sec!! Another problem could be that your camera is not focussing correctly. In the EXIF’s I noticed that the recorded subject distance was only 10.0 meters!
By: Grey Area - 8th December 2005 at 18:16
Yes. I moved it.
Your thread is asking for advice about using your new camera.
This is the correct forum for advice about photography.
Commercial Aviation is, amazingly enough, for discussing subjects connected with Commercial Aviation.
GA
By: cloud_9 - 8th December 2005 at 16:15
Shouldn’t this be on the Photographic Forum? 😀
I did not put this thread in this forum, I put it in the Commerical forum where most others post their images, but someone seems to of moved it into here…?
By: Grey Area - 8th December 2005 at 14:12
Yes, Newforest, it certainly should. 🙂
By: Newforest - 8th December 2005 at 14:09
You have camera movement which is different then slow shutter speed – but can be a result of slow shutter speed. You get the same effect if you use digital or film camera. Your (the camera) moving faster then your subject matter is moving.
Shouldn’t this be on the Photographic Forum? 😀
By: D.Stark - 8th December 2005 at 02:10
You have camera movement which is different then slow shutter speed – but can be a result of slow shutter speed. You get the same effect if you use digital or film camera. Your (the camera) moving faster then your subject matter is moving.
By: wannabe pilot - 7th December 2005 at 21:55
The blur has come where the shutter speed is too low. Find out if there is a function on the camera where you can control the shutter speeds manually. For fast moving aircraft on approach, I’d recommend a shutter speed of atleast 1/250-1/400 (depending on how steady your hand is).
By: tenthije - 7th December 2005 at 17:33
The digital zoom is the same as cropping a photo with your PC. Except, the PC does a halve decent job at it while the camera will mess it up most of the time. So just shoot with as much optical zoom as you have, and resize/crop as appropriate.
By: tmurphy - 7th December 2005 at 17:25
As for the zoom, I have only got up to 4 x digital zoom, nothing else… is this a problem, and if so, would you know how to rectify it…?
If you are planning on taking photographs of aircraft a lot then you really do need somthing with a good high OPTICAL zoom factor I’m affraid. The digital zoom factor, especially when used at its maximum settings, is not the best feature they ever put on digital camera’s.
The camera basically inerpolates what it ‘thinks’ should be there and the results are only ever satisfactory at best. (Software enlargeing using somthing like Photshop, is much better as it has the full power of your PC to do the work!).
Probably not the news you wanted to hear, but have play with the settings as I mentioned and get closer to those aircraft 😉
By: cloud_9 - 7th December 2005 at 11:19
Looking atthe EXIF data stored in the images they are all ISO 50. This means that the sensor needs to be exposed to the light longer, thus the longer shutter times.
Try upping it to ISO 100 or 200, especially in days when it’s anything ofther than bright sunshine.
Also they all state that you are using DIGITAL ZOOM, this is not the best way to zoom in as the camera is trying to simulate a longer zoom by inserting additional pixels into the image (to make it look better), and this gives the fuzzy effect on the image.
Looks like the camera is also set in MACRO mode !
Thanks for the advice…will experiment with the camera settings to see what I can do…
As for the zoom, I have only got up to 4 x digital zoom, nothing else… is this a problem, and if so, would you know how to rectify it…?
By: tmurphy - 7th December 2005 at 10:10
Looking atthe EXIF data stored in the images they are all ISO 50. This means that the sensor needs to be exposed to the light longer, thus the longer shutter times.
Try upping it to ISO 100 or 200, especially in days when it’s anything ofther than bright sunshine.
Also they all state that you are using DIGITAL ZOOM, this is not the best way to zoom in as the camera is trying to simulate a longer zoom by inserting additional pixels into the image (to make it look better), and this gives the fuzzy effect on the image.
Looks like the camera is also set in MACRO mode !