January 11, 2004 at 5:36 pm
I came across this website on airliners.net and it says how long will usairways live for and one of the people as said usairways has already gone/bancrupt/folded anyone have any views on it
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1342951/
By: Whiskey Delta - 14th January 2004 at 17:55
I don’t know enough of their operation to say what will be the first to go if the hammer falls. The PHL and PIT hub closures are the only 2 that I’ve heard floating around the rumor mill. Shuttle? Could be, US Airways has that big order for the EMB-170’s going to mainline that would easily replace the Shuttle operation on the east coast.
Will they survive? A lot more that United will IMHO. US Airways was quick to file for bankrupcy and start cutting costs while United did little to alter their operations and are still probably guilty of not doing enough even now. If US Airways cuts early into their operation then they’ll survive with more than if they draw it out, burn more and more money with the hope of saving one or two more divisions. United on the other hand should have started cutting operations a long time ago. They have way too many bases which thins out their operations. Not to mention that nearly everyone of their bases ranks among the most expensive to operate out of in the nation.
By: greekdude1 - 14th January 2004 at 17:28
WD, I’m sure that the Shuttle will not be part of this liquidation, seeing as it has to be extremely profitable for them, right? In the longrun, should US be able to survive this?
By: Whiskey Delta - 14th January 2004 at 17:24
Oops. What I meant was there is a chance that USAirways would/could pull out of PHL as well (too) but not to imply that both PHL and PIT would be liquidated. I guess there is a due date on a loan that they have to pay up on real soon. If they don’t, they start liquidating.
By: greekdude1 - 14th January 2004 at 17:09
Pull out of BOTH PHL and PIT? Also US has a decent presence Washington Reagan, but is that considered a hub even if it’s not a bona fide hub; kind of LAX was a ‘hub’ for UA long before it was labeled as one?
By: Whiskey Delta - 14th January 2004 at 15:14
Of course Southwest Airlines has recently moved into PHL putting some hugh pressure on US Airways. There is also the chance that they would cut their losses and pull out of there too. I wouldn’t mind, I prefer the PIT terminal. 🙂
By: greekdude1 - 12th January 2004 at 16:37
Hasn’t Swiss folded a couple of times already? That one I’ll believe.
By: mikeconnell - 12th January 2004 at 11:39
Like people have already said, don’t take a.net too seriously – a lot of people there represent their opinions and wish lists as fact
If you believe everything you read there, UAL, AA, US Air, Swiss, Ryanair and Airbus will all be folding this year.
Mike
By: Ren Frew - 12th January 2004 at 10:27
Downsizing ? They’re coming to GLA in the spring as well as other new european routes.
By: tenthije - 12th January 2004 at 07:41
i am not too familiar with USAirways, but don’t take the information from airliners.net too serious. Just a year ago everyone there was convinved UAL would be gone in under half a year, and behold… UAL is still here!
A lot of people seem to be convinced that downsizing = (upcoming) bankruptcy. This is of course not always the case.
By: greekdude1 - 12th January 2004 at 05:36
Whiskey Delta, or anybody else in the industry; have you guys heard anything about USAirways folding in 3-6 months? I’m planning on going to Porto this summer for the soccer and one of the itineraries that works for me involved flying USAirways for a good portion of the trip. I don’t want to count on them if they’re going to go under, however.
By: Bmused55 - 11th January 2004 at 21:42
Saying they folded implies shutdown.
A shut down airline does not continue flying. There are still plenty of US Airways jets buzzing about.
I’ve been reading airliners.net threads for ages. I thin about a year. The vast majority of posters are idiots, nay retards. A lot tripe is usually posted, never believe a single world unless backed up by weblinks and pictures.
That is not to say all posters there are idiots. A few there are professionals in the aviation business and are pretty damn good.
By: greekdude1 - 11th January 2004 at 21:19
I wish I could respond on their thread, I’d throw my 2 cents in. I wonder if they have substancial info about US’s demise. I was under the impression that they were doing relatively well, under the current circumstances.
By: Mark L - 11th January 2004 at 18:13
Yawn! Typical airliners.net I am afraid