US phone bugging

Eh???

AFTER YOU………

Lincoln .7

Who or what is Derekf ? Is it code for something unpleasant ?

Grow up.

John,You noticed that as well then?.A TROLL perhaps..:o
Anyone any idea?.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Who or what is Derekf ? Is it code for something unpleasant ?

Is that a trick question Tony?…….:o
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Or you would drive out into the country and use a public phone box in the middle of nowhere to call someone else in the middle of nowhere.

Or send a letter.

Well they didn’t upgrade the golf balls at Fylingdales for nothing.

Without any question. And work very closely with the NSA as well.

I would imagine GCHQ pick up quite a lot, but would never admit it.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Absolutely right which is of course why it is not the content of the calls which everyone is in a lather about but the fact they are being monitored, being made public.

Don’t you think that if anything sensitive was to be said over a phone it would be cryptic ie
” Would you like vinegar with your fish and chips ?” = would you like an extra bomb attached to the nuclear plant :).

I have some dis-comfort with the amount and (some of) the nature of the data that has been released into public by Snowden, having said that on balance it is overall a positive thing for the World.

As to the specific bugging revelations, yes it is normal (or should be!) for all Intelligence Agencies to observe and gather data on specific and likely threats, including those eminating from apparent “allies.”

The issue here is, as has been previously noted, the sheer scale and extent of the data gathering.

This isn’t a specific threat or target that “they” are observing, this is everybody.

That is not intelligent intelligence work it is a scatter gun approach.

I struggle to understand how this can provide specific data enabling the identification and appropriate action to be taken with regard to threats.

In fact this approach would seem to me to be guareenteed to deliver an overwhelming amount of data that either means it is too much to be of any use or all and any potential threats have to be treated at the same level.

Thus i have to question what exactly the US were achieving from this. The answer to my mind has little to do with real terrorist threat.

Now, there’s a thought!!:D

I would imagine the monitoring of all of these calls simply runs a software programme that flags up any set terms such as Nuclear weapon, Sarin Gas, Tabun, Attack, Blood Agent, Whitehouse, London, New York, Kill, etc… and then they will check those messages.. The rest of the “Aunty Glady’s has piles” messages etc will simply fly through…

Now we have mentioned Nuclear weapon, Sarin Gas, Tabun, Attack, Blood Agent, Whitehouse, London, New York, Kill we are probably being looked at whooooo..

I suppose if everyone in the world opened each of their phone call / messages / emails with Nuclear weapon, Sarin Gas, Tabun, Attack, Blood Agent, Whitehouse, London, New York, Kill the US system would soon fall over.

As for

Why hack into Angela Merkel’s personal phone? She was probably just reminding her husband to pick the fish and chips up on the way home from work.

That will be ” Mit Mayonnaise”. :rolleyes:

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So, should the cousins have bugged Angela Merkel’s phones?

Everyone else can be bugged, why not her ?

http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/Echelon

Unfortunately precisely because individuals working in high security blow the whistle it will be continued in even tighter security. There will be a hiatus of a month or two and much public hand-wringing before life will returns to normal.

Mr T. Spot on with your comments…:)
Jim.
Lincoln .7

As my teacher told us just before the exams: “If you must cheat don’t get caught.”

What a stupid thing to say. I’m a teacher and I wouldn’t say that.

As for bugging, I’m glad there are people like Edward Snowden around who are prepared to go to the lengths he has to open all this to proper scrutiny.

Why hack into Angela Merkel’s personal phone? She was probably just reminding her husband to pick the fish and chips up on the way home from work.

Well keep your sarcastic comments to yourself, If you can’t take it, don’t give it. Oh, and in case you hadn’t noticed, Charlie has no P.M. reply box,
Lincoln .7