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US phone bugging

I’ve had enough of posting great tracts of script at you lot just to be told ‘make it shorter‘, so I pose a question and leave it for you bu@@ers to put something.

So, should the cousins have bugged Angela Merkel’s phones?

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By: Derekf - 28th October 2013 at 09:51

I didn’t “ask” for anything. All I did was make a comment about posts that would better served by PM (as would this probably) and all you do is resort to abuse.

Pardon me for interupting your use of the forum for your personal little chats.

Have a nice day. 🙂

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By: Lincoln 7 - 28th October 2013 at 09:40

As 25, AGAIN. sooner the better. My apologies MODS but he asks for it.
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By: Derekf - 28th October 2013 at 09:32

You know nothing about me and the fact that I cannot make a simple comment about you and charliehunt’s exchanges without it triggering a tirade of abuse suggests to me that I’m not the one who needs to get a life.
I appreciate that this forum must mean a great deal to you and for that I can only feel sympathy for you.

When/if you reply, try doing so in a polite, reasoned and well constructed manner. You never know, I might even read it. :dev2:

Looks like I was right though, charliehunt ignores my posts – see signature below. 🙂

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By: Lincoln 7 - 28th October 2013 at 09:11

[QUOTE=Derekf;2082225]Good to see you upholding the high standards of debate for which this forum is renowned.

I don’t ignore Pillocks, at least Chas and I have a sense of humour, unlike you, you only moan, or derride others, get a life DF, your sadly in need of one. There is nothing wrong with this forum, just because no one seldom listens to you, you throw a hissy. WADR lets hope your work on here is done, and we can all R.I.P.
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By: Derekf - 28th October 2013 at 08:57

Are you talking to me??!!

Excellent! My work here is done.

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By: Derekf - 28th October 2013 at 08:57

Naff Off.:rolleyes:
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Good to see you upholding the high standards of debate for which this forum is renowned.

Anyway, I thought you were ignoring me? I know charliehunt is. I suspect it’s because I got the better of him rather too often 🙂

Keep up the good work though:)

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By: charliehunt - 28th October 2013 at 08:55

Are you talking to me??!!

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By: Lincoln 7 - 28th October 2013 at 08:45

Naff Off.:rolleyes:
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By: Derekf - 28th October 2013 at 08:37

Perhaps charliehunt and Lincoln 7 should get their own forum. Most threads would then remain mercifully free from their inane ramblings.

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By: charliehunt - 28th October 2013 at 08:29

Chicken – it so it be that’s fine by me!:cool:…you can have have just so much of a good thing!!:D

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By: Lincoln 7 - 28th October 2013 at 08:22

Chicken……………………..:D……..And the new World Champion for creating the new sleeping potion is………..SNAFU.:applause:

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By: charliehunt - 28th October 2013 at 05:37

Not a chance – Snafu’s won – I’ve given up on his nightly diatribes…..Good luck!

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By: Lincoln 7 - 27th October 2013 at 23:14

snafu, Thanks, looks like i’m going to have a good nights sleep tonight now. Guess Chas will be UP all night reading…………..:D
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By: snafu - 27th October 2013 at 22:29

Since we are all bugging each other to a greater or lesser extent it is hardly a surprise. But now it has been “whistleblown” the attendant media attention will result in the need for some very adept US diplomacy.

It has been historically how tabs were kept on potential undesirables in the Cold War – bug them and get info that might be useful either to strong arm them or bring about their downfall. But these days the Bear is, if not exactly a friend, a partner that you don’t turn your back on because you might find a ‘kick me’ poster stuck there. The chances are that if this sort of thing got caught in the past it was all quietly sorted out with as little publicity as possible (ie none). Unfortunately for those on the other side of the Atlantic this news was splashed before they knew about it, before it could be sorted out diplomatically and quietly forgotten.
To me it was a good thing. Would you want other countries to chuckle behind your back that you let them get away with it?

Been going on for years snafu, but it’s nice to be forewarned, just in case,you can’t trust anyone these days, (‘Specialy in the EU).
Bet they have been bugging us for years, I know they have me!!

Oh Linc, you are a wheeze.

That’s it snafu, I bet you have upset Chas now. It used to occupy his day reading all of your threads, now he will have to do the housework instead…….:highly_amused:

That’s good; he can go back to searing at cats and moaning about kids wearing out the Tarmac walking to school.

Of course, Linc! Which is why all the huffing and puffing and indignation is quite amusing.

Whose huffing and puffing? Must be nice to have a hobby…

:D, well, it keeps him occupied, innit.

Me? Must admit I have a little time on my hands since there is little call for a ribbon changer (green ink) for machines manufactured by The Imperial Typewriter Company of Leicester. If only I could gain the position of ribbon changer (red ink), but it is dead mans shoes round here, and he has been filling those shoes for the last 60-odd years without even taking on an apprentice.
At least Rubik’s Cube prevented me from getting into any immoral trouble…;o)

I knew a couple of Special Branch officers and a few of their “friends” very well in the late 60s and many stories were exchanged in the shadier haunts of the West End. Great fun….;)

They caught up with you? Thank goodness you’ve since managed to elude them for the best part of forty years!
Tell us the stories, unky Chas! Even if you just make it all up like normal!!!

I take it they never signed T.O.S.A. then when they joined?.

I signed a ‘please adjust your dress’ sign in a gents once, although not with my own name. Does that count?

As my teacher told us just before the exams: “If you must cheat don’t get caught.”

Sage advice. Did you?;o)

the question is…Should they be doing it and the answer is morally no…but I guess they would then play the “For reasons of National security” card, which covers anything they want to do without having to answer for it or disclosing anything about it.

Exactly!
It’s having the power and using it when there is absolutely no earthly reason to. Is Angela Merkel a terrorism suspect? Did she associate with shady characters (apart from the standard other politicians)? What were they searching for? What did they hope to find? And did they find it?

I guess the answer really depends on the reason why the bugging and what positive came out of it.
If it prevented an act of terrorism then brilliant but if it is to corrupt then no.

But what happens when the news comes out that they bugged so many innocent phones – including the German chancellors: does that negate the potential value of any successful tap?

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By: trumper - 27th October 2013 at 20:51

I guess the answer really depends on the reason why the bugging and what positive came out of it.
If it prevented an act of terrorism then brilliant but if it is to corrupt then no.

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By: garryrussell - 27th October 2013 at 20:49

Yep…I know this goes on with all countries bugging each other if they can

the question is…Should they be doing it and the answer is morally no…but I guess they would then play the “For reasons of National security” card, which covers anything they want to do without having to answer for it or disclosing anything about it.

So I guess the answer is no but realistically we have to accept that it is going on, always has and always will.

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By: skyskooter - 27th October 2013 at 20:18

As my teacher told us just before the exams: “If you must cheat don’t get caught.”

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By: Lincoln 7 - 27th October 2013 at 11:14

You CAN PM me Chas, Yknow.
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By: charliehunt - 27th October 2013 at 11:09

I’d rather not say if you don’t mind.:)

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By: Lincoln 7 - 27th October 2013 at 10:44

What was “Your house” Chas.
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