May 16, 2009 at 12:21 pm
The captain who was at the helm of Handley Page Victor XM715 “Teasin’ Tina” on Sunday the 3rd of May would like to see video footage of what happened during his inadvertent “hop”. 😀
He certainly has no problem of having such videos online. 🙂
Those who would like to check, just scroll through the latter pages of `
http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/372553-victor-airborne-merged.html …
Posted in a separate thread so his request stands out…
By: MrB.175 - 17th May 2009 at 16:52
Bob
Just wanted to say thank you for producing something that will end up in aviation folklore many years down the line. It will truely be one of those “do you remember the time when the Victor at Brunty inadvertantly took off during its fast taxy run”.
I’m just sad I wasn’t there to witness it and am glad that all the systems worked as expected enabling you a safe touch down.
Would be good to see some pics from those on the opposite side of the runway further up the strip. I assume the pros get access up there so come on guys…where are you and your pics???!!!
By: Robert Hilton - 17th May 2009 at 16:37
Odd thing to say, wasn’t this the aircraft lost to a major birdstrike?
It went off the end of the runway after the crew thought that they had a bird-strike. They were beyond decision speed but they elected to break off the take off run. Hence they over shot the runway and cat 5’d the airframe.
By: Die_Noctuque - 17th May 2009 at 14:27
Timbo
Sorry, it was thoughtless to say thoughtless. I was tired!
Thank you Bob, very much appreciated – same went for me I think..tired and overly defensive. All’s well that ends well! 🙂
By: pagen01 - 17th May 2009 at 12:26
I’m glad you didn’t do a re-enactment of XL513, that would have been a real shame.
Odd thing to say, wasn’t this the aircraft lost to a major birdstrike?
By: Robert Hilton - 17th May 2009 at 12:04
I’m glad you didn’t do a re-enactment of XL513, that would have been a real shame.
By: VictorAircraft - 17th May 2009 at 10:46
Victor Again……
Timbo
Sorry, it was thoughtless to say thoughtless. I was tired!
Merlin
I am researching for a book about the Victor in the cold war years. Any material most welcome. No, I do not fly now, unless you count a trial lesson in a helicopter! In fact I have not had my hands on “flying” controls since about 1991. However, I have been involved with 715 since May 2004. Good thing flying is not a perishable skill!!
Vulcan588
Hope you find a solution. If you have Movie Maker on your PC, perhaps you could lift out the “hop”, that would be a much smaller file?
By: bloodnok - 17th May 2009 at 09:25
I just found this link looks like maybe nothing is going to happen about it (crosses fingers).
curlyboy
PS good to see a Victor fly again shame i was not there though 🙁
You might want to look at the date on that article before you get too excited! 😉
By: Arabella-Cox - 17th May 2009 at 09:15
I just found this link looks like maybe nothing is going to happen about it (crosses fingers).
curlyboy
PS good to see a Victor fly again shame i was not there though 🙁
By: vulcan558 - 17th May 2009 at 07:47
I have some video footage of the Hop.
Would love to stick it on the web , but i do not seem to have the software to do it. the file is T2 video and is around 2.7 gig got all the fast taxi runs . i can compress for email i thing with RAR file compressing ,
By: Merlin3945 - 17th May 2009 at 02:02
Bob
Just a quick question not knowing your background or history.
Do you currently fly and if so what.
But only answer if you want to. Just being nosey I guess but very very interested in the whole situation.
By: Junk Collector - 16th May 2009 at 21:26
No throat jumping intended, post modified as such.
Just don’t want people thinking we don’t take the the paying public into consideration when parking.. As Faith No More once said…We care a lot!
A point worth making 🙂
By: Die_Noctuque - 16th May 2009 at 21:24
No throat jumping intended, post modified as such.
Just don’t want people thinking we don’t take the the paying public into consideration when parking.. As Faith No More once said…We care a lot!
By: Junk Collector - 16th May 2009 at 20:56
With all due respect Bob, the Canberra was not parked “thoughtlessly” and I find such a comment somewhat insulting and rather misplaced considering the circumstances. The aircraft was moved to the spot we were allocated as soon as possible so as not to impede on the Victors timeslot, but the parked vehicles prevented us moving any futher forward. I wasnt overly impressed at myself and the aircraft our team works tirelessly to mantain being grit blasted severely by 4 Conways on a high throttle setting which later dampened our day, but refrained from commenting online as I didn’t wish to comment on a subject on which I had no facts as a basis. Please do think about this yourself when posting such comments as I feel such things can be damaging if taken as fact.
Just to re-iterate, every care was taken to ensure the aircraft was parked safely and within the instructions given to us, whilst trying not to compromise the enjoyment of any paying visitor and we would never wish to spoil any view through thoughlessness, carelessness or otherwise.
Regards, Timbo
I took the remark to be a light hearted one !
Perhaps clarifying first might be better than jumping down someones throat particularly someone who has not posted so much ?
By: Bob - 16th May 2009 at 20:49
Glad you weren’t forced to do a circuit – the short ‘hop’ generated enough ‘rubbish’…
By: Die_Noctuque - 16th May 2009 at 20:48
I now have a large portfolio of pics thanks to a lot of people – some make me shudder. However, most are not from the spectator area as the Canberra was rather thoughtlessly parked blocking the view up the runway. Thus, I suspect many videos show the run up to about the first 1000 Ft part of the run, but nothing after. I am in touch with a few people who were further up the runway and who have video.
With all due respect Bob, the Canberra was not parked “thoughtlessly” and I find such a comment a little insulting considering the circumstances. The aircraft was moved to the spot we were allocated as soon as possible so as not to impede on the Victors timeslot, but the parked vehicles prevented us moving any futher forward. Please do think about making comments like this as I feel such things can be a tad damaging if taken as fact.
Just to re-iterate, every care was taken to ensure the aircraft was parked safely and within the instructions given to us, whilst trying not to compromise the enjoyment of any paying visitor and we would never wish to spoil any view through thoughlessness, carelessness or otherwise.
Regards, Timbo
By: VictorAircraft - 16th May 2009 at 20:37
Snap Decision
LOL Thanks for that!! Some of you out there might be interested to know that I did for a faction of a second (it seemed) think of going back to full power and flying a circuit. Despite the fact I had not flown a Victor circuit since 1980, I had that much faith in the aircraft and its systems and system redundancy. But ….. a crew on board, no parachutes, no seat cartridges ….very high risk, and I could see the runway, the cross wind effect was huge, but I had control of the aircraft. Snap decision, half the runway was available, I could control the yaw and get the aircraft back towards the runway, go for the landing. Diving to keep flying speed, a good round out and a firm landing without float, and it all worked out. I still shake thinking about it! RAF Flying training!! Bob
By: Tuck1940 - 16th May 2009 at 20:25
Did they charge you a landing fee ?:) Great job BTW
By: bazv - 16th May 2009 at 20:25
Thanks for posting again Bob…yes it might make sense if only a relatively few relevant video clips exist and the owners are holding them back in case they are valuable.
I would also like to say that I think you did a great job safely landing from a tricky position.
I was based at Marham in the mid 70’s,but was over on the ‘dark side’ on the canberra OCU,the Victor 2’s certainly used to Shake our (condemned) shored up line hut when powering up the Hill for take off.
regards baz
By: Junk Collector - 16th May 2009 at 20:16
Me too, I want to see it I am sick of looking at all the rubbish on Youtube trying to find it.
Maybe it’s because they did in a couple of minutes what the Vulcan took years to achieve 🙂
By: VictorAircraft - 16th May 2009 at 19:57
Pics and Video
Just found this thread. For the record, I believe the Commentators words were a “knee Jerk” reaction – not knowing exactly what the incident involved, whether the aircraft or crew were damaged, or how it had happened. To my certain knowledge, there has been no action by anybody (The Bruntingthorpe authorities, me, the CAA, Police or whoever) to suppress any pics or videos.
I now have a large portfolio of pics thanks to a lot of people – some make me shudder. However, most are not from the spectator area as the Canberra was rather thoughtlessly parked blocking the view up the runway. Thus, I suspect many videos show the run up to about the first 1000 Ft part of the run, but nothing after. I am in touch with a few people who were further up the runway and who have video.
None of them have been restrained in any way from publishing their images, but I think they are waiting until the report is public, or they are a bit stunned by what they have on film and do not want to cause problems, or they are stunned and want to keep copyright on what they have got, or there are purely technical problems taking their material and getting it onto the web. I have not as of today seen any of the videos.
Apart from the videos, everything showing how 715 blew away the mist of time and what a fine aircraft design it was, is public. The full story will be published as soon as we know what the CAA reaction, if any, will be. The original design was inspired by a few of this country’s leading post-war aerodynamicists, improved 100% in the Mk 2 version, changed somewhat during the K2 conversion, but it is still a Victor. If it looks right – it will fly right – and thank heavens it did!!!
Thanks to everybody for their support over this incident. Bob