November 28, 2007 at 5:43 pm
HI all,
firstly im new here so my apologize if any such thread is already posted. anyway, i’m wondering whether airlines still allow passengers to visit the flight deck ever since the sept 11. i’ve had many unsuccessful attempts but im wondering if passengers are allowed once the plane had already landed? your thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Daryl
By: Deano - 30th November 2007 at 16:10
After our last sector today we let a little lad onto the flightdeck before his dad pulled him away and told him they had to go, probably ruined his life for the rest of the day. Meanie daddy.
By: jeonghui - 30th November 2007 at 13:03
hey,
Again, thanks for your suggestions:) . Well tomorrow is my flight and wish me luck..hehe. I’ll try my best to get past their 1st line of defence, the F/A’s…HAHA.
Daryl
By: Whiskey Delta - 29th November 2007 at 17:09
Strictly speaking not allowed inflight OR on the ground…..check out the sad (but kind of inevitable) story of Pablo Mason on pprune http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=301882
I couldn’t find it in the article but what was he officially found to have violated, company or government laws? In the US the rules apply to only Airline ops but the individual companies forbid inflight access during any ops. Just curious if it was just the company going after the pilot.
By: steve rowell - 29th November 2007 at 03:38
I know that Qantas and American have forbidden cockpit visits during flight
By: PMN - 29th November 2007 at 01:12
I think if you were travelling First or Business your request may well be more likely to be passed onto the captain, whereas in Economy you are more likely to be rebuffed.
I’m not entirely convinced by that. I think it has more to do with the individual circumstances of the flight as opposed to where you’re sitting. In most cases anyway.
Paul
By: Mark L - 29th November 2007 at 00:53
hey,
thanks guys for your opinions on this. some are your suggestions are very promising and im quite convinced that i can make it this time 🙂 . Anyways, do you think first class passengers have a slight advantage than economy class passengers?? Or is it just the same?
Daryl
I think if you were travelling First or Business your request may well be more likely to be passed onto the captain, whereas in Economy you are more likely to be rebuffed.
If you’re on the Upper Deck of a 747 for example then there are practical reasons for this as you’re right by the flightdeck door.
This applies to an on the ground visit of course, not an airborne one.
By: jeonghui - 29th November 2007 at 00:36
hey,
thanks guys for your opinions on this. some are your suggestions are very promising and im quite convinced that i can make it this time 🙂 . Anyways, do you think first class passengers have a slight advantage than economy class passengers?? Or is it just the same?
Daryl
By: symon - 28th November 2007 at 21:12
This day and age we should be able to trush someone as famous as that. Airlines and FS Visits are now a rare not like they were back in the 90’S
Unfortunately, everyone has their price – be it in money or ransom. Hence the comment about Gordon Brown not even getting a view midflight.
Quite right as well I think. Apart from the ‘front on’ view of the sky coming towards you, what can you see mid-flight that you can’t on the ground? I remember as a kid I was usually always lucky enough to get a cockpit visit. Though I am still very must intrigued and fascinated when I get a cockpit visit now-a-days on the ground to.
By: Jet 22 - 28th November 2007 at 21:00
What i dont get is what if you have a nevrous reck of a passneger getting onboard. I was reading about my travel. They had a pasenger who was a rubgy player(or of that sort you know sport person) who didnt like flying. The captain said ok when we have took off you can come up front and see what’s what etc. That happened next thing you know the pilot is suspended indefantly. I mean why. It wasnt like this bloke was going to pull out a knife stab all flight crew and crash it into a building was it. This day and age we should be able to trush someone as famous as that. Airlines and FS Visits are now a rare not like they were back in the 90’S
By: Mark L - 28th November 2007 at 20:46
Of course this only really applies in a handful of countries, largely the USA, the UK and Australia.
If you want a jumpseat ride on most other European, South American or African airlines, you won’t have too much trouble getting one.
As for flightdeck visits I’d say 90% of pilots are more than happy to welcome you in either before departure or after landing.
The problem comes when you ask the cabin crew (as obviously you can’t just barge into the flightdeck!).
I’d say its 50/50 whether you will get the “I’ll just ask the Captain” response, or the “Sorry, its not possible response”.
By: Moondance - 28th November 2007 at 19:07
Strictly speaking not allowed inflight OR on the ground…..check out the sad (but kind of inevitable) story of Pablo Mason on pprune http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=301882
By: PMN - 28th November 2007 at 18:10
Firstly welcome to the forums, Daryl!
Whether you can get a cockpit visit or not I think depends largely on the kind of flight you’re on and how much turnaround time the crew have. If you’re flying a budget carrier where the inbound flight was maybe a little late, cutting down the turnaround time, it may be awkward. I have had a couple of very brief cockpit visits with Ryanair though, so they’re by no means impossible to get.
Just ask politely and I think the chances are you may well be successful. Possibly even ask a member of the cabin crew during the flight what the chances are (obviously at a time when they’re not particularly busy). They may be able to ask the Captain and check they’ll have enough time to allow you in after landing.
Again, welcome! 🙂
Paul
By: Jet 22 - 28th November 2007 at 17:57
HI welcome to the forum’s. Answer to the question not during flight.The primeminster could ask for a flight deck visit during flight but they are not alowed beacuse he might be a “potenial” terroist. Before Flight and After Flight you are alowed
By: gatwickjosh - 28th November 2007 at 17:47
Hi daryl. Welcome to the forums! To answer your question, i think its just how friendly the crew are. Many users on this forum get Cockpit visits when they ask, and im sure many dont. I do whenever i am flying FCA as my mum works for them, but if you ask once you have landed if you can have a quick peak at the flight deck, im sure it would be fine by the crew
Josh