April 27, 2009 at 8:56 pm
A friend of mine is trying to identify this Vickers Viking mishap. *Could* have been taken in 1946, *maybe* in The Netherlands. Anybody out there who knows which airplane this is? And the what/where/when/particulars of it taking a closer look at the runway than recommended by its manufacturer?
By: eric Tarrant - 29th October 2009 at 11:04
After some further research this morning I came across the following which confirms that picture in question is G-AGRW.
See following http://www.hdekker.info/Nieuwe%20map/1946.htm
On page click contact. followed by chash archief followed by1960 scroll down to 17-02-60.
As has already been said it now stand on plinths near Viena airport. I had a flight on it after we had removed the port wing to repaired a fuel leak. No such thing as H@S so went up on the test flight over Brighton.
By: eric Tarrant - 28th October 2009 at 22:16
Possible G-AGRW
With reference to this aircraft being G-AGRW. The late Dave Cotteral a Viking historian records the following 1960 17th Febuary. G-AGRW, at Schipol it was substantially damaged when, after landing in surface wind reported as 285 deg 21 knots, was being taxied along runway 14. While the brakes were being applied to check the aircraft speed prior to turning off, the port main wheel burst. The aircraft tipped forward causing damage to the propellers and forward lower fuselage structure.
It was, after repairs ferried to Marshall’s of Cambridge for a freight door to be fitted and Overseas Aviation livery to be applied.
The only question is that the aircraft at the time would have still been in Hunting Clan basic colour scheme. This include a red sheild below the flight deck windows. This is not seen in the photo.
Also whilst working for Overseas 1960 I remember it said that the main undercarriage fitted was found to be the wrong mark. This was from one of the guys who went out to repair it for the ferry flight to Marshalls.
By: ericmunk - 26th October 2009 at 12:39
Turns out this is G-AGRW at Schiphol (indeed), but on February 17th, 1960 (not 1946). Up on its nose after the lefthand tyre blew during braking for a quick exit of runway 27 on landing. Crew was fine.
The aircraft is now displayed at a McDonald’s near Schwechat (Austria).
By: ericmunk - 28th April 2009 at 08:27
DUtch website
As for the original photo appearing on the website mentioned above in Holland, yes, this is the friend looking for the ID of this aircraft. The reason there’s no additional details mentioned in that link, is that he doesn’t have any and is looking for them.
The Schiphol mentioned in this link (in the DUtch texet) is NOT the place the picture is supposed to be taken, and the 1946 is NOT where it is supposed to have been. The caption simply says that the photo came from a collection of photos regarding Schiphol airport, with A POSSIBILITY it was taken at Schiphol too. And it COULD have been 1946. But could, as has been pointed out, have been later judging by the colourscheme.
By: Arabella-Cox - 28th April 2009 at 08:00
Well, it is not a Continental Air Services Viking-wrong colours, but this was not an uncommon occurence for the Viking when taxying with insufficient load at the back.
By: Newforest - 28th April 2009 at 06:59
Dug deep to get that link, pity there is no accompanying report!:)
By: Arabella-Cox - 27th April 2009 at 23:06
The photo appears on this page. Other than stating Schipol 1946 there is no other info.
By: Newforest - 27th April 2009 at 22:42
ericmunk.
Maybe we should think Varsity / Valetta as well ??
Others will soon tell me I am wrong ! but we will see ???Keith.
With no injuries and not a w/o, maybe not recorded in the stats?
By: keithnewsome - 27th April 2009 at 22:36
ericmunk.Welcome, I have looked into ‘Aviation Safety Network’ records and they list 57 occurrances (accidents) for the Vickers Viking, but none in the Netherlands, these are from 1946 to 1965 ?
Maybe we should think Varsity / Valetta as well ??
Others will soon tell me I am wrong ! but we will see ???
Keith.
By: John Aeroclub - 27th April 2009 at 22:17
The lack of spinners and the cheat line style suggest that it might have been taken at a later date than 46. G-AIKN operated in the Netherlands with Continental Airways in 1958.
John