Vulcan Bomber on Ebay

It is indeed XJ825.

Plazz –
you are bang on! – that will teach me to make ill informed late night posts…. 😮

I believe the Vulcan being scrapped in the photo is K2 XJ825 year 1992.

Plazz

it was xj823? at waddington – the last k2 ? vulcan around. the raf disposed of it in this manner in about 93′.
I dont agree with slagging other folk off on the forum, but i understand the point of XL’s comment…. youve got to place the blame with the guy that let this aircraft get into such shape….
all the best to the landlord! – robbo…you have a point! -(i think your money is safe)
((this fence is painfull…))
leaving blackpool (an exceptional case ) ……my 2 pence worth says that vulcans are well worth preserving as they are still vey impressive pieces of engineering – I myself can assign (blame! ) my engineering career on vulcans, after seeing xl426 flying in the 80’s and visiting coventry air museum and looking up at the ‘overcast’ and being awestruck… this country needs engineers – and this stuff inspires !
i am sure there are many more like me. and i couldnt pester my dad to take me to hendon or duxford at that time, so sunderland, norwich,coventry, newark, and all the other ‘smaller museums’ that try their best to preserve the larger airframes are worth their weight in gold, or at least the odd engineer…..

which vulcan is that one??

You are spot on there David!

We can all make up our minds, personally, regarding the Vulcan’s (former?) owner after seeing that picture. To publicly assult on an open forum is uncalled for, and could probably be heaven for the the lawers.

XL391 – Would you care to edit your post ?- I think we can all make our own
judgement of Mr Bateson from what the pictures show. Rather that than allow his solicitors to earn money from website libel!
I feel desperately sorry for the pub landlord – in future maybe ‘we’
could send potential buyers of such items helpful advice. In that way he might at least have a cockpit sat behind his pub.

I’m afraid the only future ‘391 has got is a brief and violent one like this…

The seller might not be land owner, so when times up, the landowner can claim compensation for having the Vulcan still parked there. £20k to dismantle it and move it from A – B, no chance. You can only take the wings back to the engine roots. Thats why the street lights in Hazel Grove were hinged when they transported them from Chadderton to Woodford. If it ever gets to the pub I’ll stick £100 behind the bar for a forum meet!

Here’s the latest….

http://public.tameside.gov.uk/plan/f422planapp.asp

Search for applications from the district of Dukinfield.

Th’Advertiser includes a small article on the Vulcan but doesn’t really contain anything you’ve not already heard about. A local firm have quoted the new owner a “ball park figure” of £20k to dismantle and move the aircraft to it’s new home, subject, of course, to the planning app being approved.

What the chances of that are is anybody’s guess but I have my suspicions. It’s not that many years ago since Tameside M.B.C. declared itself a nuclear free zone. That was under a Labour administration that is still in power today. Given all the many valid concerns about the airframe’s condition, etc, I cannot see this app getting much sympathy.

Regards to all!

Damien – I think by entering into the contract you are bound to remove within that timescale. I think it’s very unlikely that the buyer could withdraw or indeed that the seller would wish to refund any money as he is covered by the clause.

I would love to have a Vulcan – or anything – maybe this guy can make it happen – the previous owner didn’t. I read the whinging about the slow decay of the airframe – the advent of the inevitable scrapman. This guy wants to makre it happen and all that happens it the forum says he is a fool. He may be a fool this time but he may want to preserve something worthy as far as the experts are concerned next time,

Give the guy a break and if possible assistance.

Come on guys.Its not worth getting personal over.

Melvyn – I do pay attention

Here are your words in post 103 :Getting parts from what is, without a doubt, a scrapyard on wheels is a non starter. All parts need to be properly overhauled and traceable and nothing on the Blackpool Vulcan will be.

Here are your words in post 129:I know they can be traced. You can look at them and say “this highly corroded part of an airframe has traceability, it is scrap yes, but it IS traceable”

I take great care not to misquote anyone. If your bored with me please
be gracious and ignore me.

Trumper, your perspective on this is more pragmatic than many. What ever the final fate of this Vulcan, it does not really matter very much. No, it has not been looked after, and no, most of it probably will not last much longer, but it was destined for the scrapman 20 years ago anyway , and in the meantime, it has been a landmark, and a source of interest and rumination for many enthusiasts- even this very thread has run to 6 pages.

Only the new owner can decide if he has wasted his money. If he had spent £15K on a conservatory for his house, nobody would pass comment, but now, maybe just briefly, he owns a Vulcan bomber, which is more than most people can say. He has been at the centre of much media interest, which, for all we know, he may be enjoying hugely. He has got national coverage for his pub, and is likely to end up with at least the forward fuselage as an ‘attraction’ . He will probably even get a few quid for scrap, if it is reduced to produce on site. There is no requirement for us to pass judgement on the guy, but just wish him well. Whatever the outcome, so long as the Vulcan does not collapse on somebody, it doesn’t really matter.

😮 Well whatever the outcome i wish the buyer all the best and maybe we will see a mans dream [foolhardy or otherwise ]come true.
If it were’nt for dreams and silliness at times life would be boring and predictable,oh and David and Melvyn it’s not worth squabbling over 😮 .
How about a forum meet up under the Vulcan and toast a dream. 😀
The buyer could tell the planning people that whilst his Vulcan is there, there would’nt be room for the “travellers” to set up an illegal home 😮 [oooh sorry NON P/C 😀 ]

As for you being bored Melvyn. Whilst the fate of the Vulcan is of no importance to you – to some it is.

You really don’t pay attention do you. I didn’t say I was bored with Vulcans, the fate of this one or the future of aircraft preservation, I said was bored with you

I don’t disagree that this man has something to show for his money but at what real cost? It will be scrap in months I promise you….

I am sorry if I made the guy out to be a fool. It’s just that where I come from, if someone pays out twice the value for something that clearly is scrap, then they are considered just that…..

If people were so concerned in the first place about this man getting the “right advice”, perhaps they could have considered contacting him via e-bay to warn him of his folly???

Paul.

Update from this week’s Tameside Advertiser.

The new owner of XL391 faces an agonising eight week wait to hear if he will be granted planning permission to site the Vulcan at the rear of his pub.

A haulage contractor has advised him that the wings will have to come off or it won’t fit on the lorry…

..yeah, I’ll go along with that. The haulage contractor knows his stuff alright.

It’s not me who is offended – simply if I was being discussed on a website as
a ‘fool’ I might take exception to it . This guy hasn’t received the right advice and he might learn a harsh lesson. However there seem to be a great number of people taken in with various schemes to relieve them of their money (usually offshore) and this can amount to thousands. At least this guy has something to show for his money .