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Vulcan plans fall apart

The Blackpool Bomber plans fall apart…..literally…which will surprise few of us here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/4181657.stm

“The new owner has discovered that the plane is in such a fragile condition it might be difficult to reassemble, and will cost £20,000 to transport……..I went to see it and could put my finger through the panels. It’s not in a good condition”.

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By: Peter - 31st January 2005 at 15:54

update would be welcome… I think it will end up in him saving the cockpit for display…

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By: f4 - 31st January 2005 at 13:34

It’s been ten days or so without news – anyone know anything? I understand the planning application for the pub is due to be heard on Wednesday?

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By: 682al - 20th January 2005 at 00:04

The debate is certainly going round in circles and, forgive me, but it’s starting to look a bit like the crowd waiting for the execution.

I’ll post a message if I hear anything locally about the planning application, but other than that, I’ll take no further part.

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By: duxfordhawk - 20th January 2005 at 00:00

It was for Mr Bateson, the owner…
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Yes but if you had a pile of rotting metal(and thats sadly all she is now) and you have a chance to make a bit of money from it instead of needing to pay for it to be removed what would any of us do?.I guess also if the cocpit and other parts can be salvaged then its not such a bad deal after all its not everyday you can buy a Vulcan cockpit.
Its a pity she is lost but here is hoping the cockpit and a few other parts will survive then its not a total waste.

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By: setter - 19th January 2005 at 23:26

Hi at the risk of repeating on this
1) A much better project could have been found for the money
2) Scrap it – they can’t all be saved – just do it quickly so everyone can move on

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By: Peter - 19th January 2005 at 22:37

sad… although the cockpit might be salvageable as well as engines…..

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By: XL391 - 19th January 2005 at 21:44

🙁 Oh Right…

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By: Smith - 19th January 2005 at 21:40

very large bulldozer made by Caterpillar

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By: XL391 - 19th January 2005 at 21:32

Looks like a D9 is the only tool required.

Whats one of them?
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By: Smith - 19th January 2005 at 21:29

Jeez … looking at those photos I’m on the verge of retracting my “help the man” admonitions. Looks like a D9 is the only tool required.

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By: XL391 - 19th January 2005 at 21:28

“One of e-Bays Greatest Deals”

It was for Mr Bateson, the owner…
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By: Andy in Beds - 19th January 2005 at 21:28

The above quote is the feedback the seller gave to the buyer in the e-bay auction for XL391.

One assumes that their has been a bit of a mix up as the “One of e-Bays Greatest Deals” must apply to some other item not this Vulcan, as lets face it the entire XL391 situation has now become a farce.

Like Mark12 hinted at, it makes one wonder if the whole thing isn’t a publicity scam of some sort.
Cynic, me?
Andy

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By: andrewman - 19th January 2005 at 21:24

One of e-Bays Greatest Deals, Christopher is a Credit to e-Bay, “VULCANISED”

The above quote is the feedback the seller gave to the buyer in the e-bay auction for XL391.

One assumes that their has been a bit of a mix up as the “One of e-Bays Greatest Deals” must apply to some other item not this Vulcan, as lets face it the entire XL391 situation has now become a farce.

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By: XL391 - 19th January 2005 at 21:08

Looking at these photos the condition of XL391 is getting worse by the day, it must be getting very close to the stage where it is considered a “dangerous structure”

I think that stage passed by several years ago to be honest. Look at the metal clamp holding the front undercarrige leg together… 😮

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By: andrewman - 19th January 2005 at 21:05

Looking at these photos the condition of XL391 is getting worse by the day, it must be getting very close to the stage where it is considered a “dangerous structure”.

Excuse my ignorance here but why is planning permission required to display this or any other static aircraft on private land ?

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By: XL391 - 19th January 2005 at 21:04

And this one, taken as the light faded, is the last one. Probably the last time i’ll ever see her… Such a shame…

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By: XL391 - 19th January 2005 at 21:02

You can see one of the missing elevons to the right of the picture. The wing structure behind it looked extremely powdery… Also, there was a washing up bucket slung in one of the jet pipes.

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By: XL391 - 19th January 2005 at 20:58

Some more…

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By: XL391 - 19th January 2005 at 20:53

Went up to see her today, unfortunately some typical Lancashire weather made the skies very dark and overcast, not to mention bloody freezing (my excuse for the blurring…), but i’ve done what I could. Here they are.

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By: Mark12 - 19th January 2005 at 19:57

XL391,

Thank you for pointing me at the dismantling website.

Irrespective of its condition, the Blackpool Vulcan would need pretty much all the jacks, stands, cranes and cradles etc that we see with the RAF Museum example, plus soft ground equipment to get it erected at the pub.

I wonder if there was a complete naivety on the part of the purchaser or whether there is/was perhaps a hidden agenda here?

Would any sensible person really pay £15k without first getting a quote or an understanding of the dismantling and transport costs, without a structural survey, without getting a planning permission nod to locate it at the pub, without considering the social impact on the local environment, the potential drop in value of local house prices etc.

Hmmm! I am a little cynical.

Mark

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