August 14, 2008 at 1:30 pm
This is something of a long shot. I have been to Munich many times, and am going again next year, and somewhere in the past I have seen reference to an incomplete/abandoned wartime factory or assembly plant in the area, probably to the north in the Schleisheim region. I think it was to do with the Me.262, but this might be wrong.
Can I find that again? No. Can anyone enlighten me please?
By: JägerMarty - 18th August 2008 at 00:58
Yeah, was definately Riem I was thinking about there, Gallands JV44 flew ME262s out of there for a while
By: Kenneth - 17th August 2008 at 21:58
The only location in the vicinity of Munich which fits the above description are the bunker ruins at Mühldorfer Hart near Mühldorf – which is east of Munich.
There are no such remains north of Munich.
Oberpfaffenhofen is still an active airfield and there is no public access.
Riem is where Munich’s international airport was until the early nineties. There is a trade fair on the site now.
By: JägerMarty - 16th August 2008 at 06:19
No, that was purely a production facility, they would never have flown 262s out of there.
I’ll google Riem if I get time
By: macky42 - 15th August 2008 at 23:14
Do you mean this maybe?
http://www.thirdreichruins.com/thuringen.htm
Althoug a fair way north by the look of it.
By: JägerMarty - 15th August 2008 at 14:44
I read recently that land once used by an airfield that had active use during war has been developed.
Was on outskirts during war but München is growing, the airfiled may have been Riem, used by JV44 at wars end
By: Steve Bond - 15th August 2008 at 10:10
Thanks Tangmere, that sounds very promising.
By: Arabella-Cox - 14th August 2008 at 17:13
You would do well to contact my colleague, Steve Whitehorn.
He is in Munich until the end of the summer and organises Third Reich historical tours in the Munich area. He has lived there for some years and is very knowledgeable. If he doesn’t know he will probably know someone who does know!
Go to:
or,
[email]brightonmunich@yahoo.co.uk[/email]
By: Mondariz - 14th August 2008 at 16:15
Dornier Flugzeugwerke in oberpfaffenhofen is pretty much closed, although I’m not sure there is public access.
By: Steve Bond - 14th August 2008 at 15:38
Hi Martin,
No, that’s not it. It’s not a museum I’m looking for, it’s a derelict site.
Thanks anyway.
Steve
By: wieesso - 14th August 2008 at 14:42
Thought there is only a museum in Schleissheim
http://www.jetjournal-galerie.net/main.php?g2_itemId=26981
Or do you mean the ‘Herbitus’ plant at Munich-Milbertshofen? Long gone …
‘From 1944 onwards the BMW 003 unit was also tested in the
low-pressure chamber codenamed “Herbitus” at BMW’s Munich
plant. The Herbitus facility could simulate altitude conditions up to
11,000 metres and flying speeds of Mach 1. The pressurised chamber
of the test rig was effectively a horizontal cylinder 3.8 metres
in diameter and 8 metres in length. In order to simulate conditions
at various altitudes, fresh intake air was first compressed and then
cooled. This made it possible to achieve different atmospheric densities
and temperatures ranging from +55° Celsius to -70° Celsius.
As operation of the test facility required an extremely high energy
input of up to 30,000 kW, testing was restricted to the night hours.
In addition to testing BMW engines, the facility also conducted tests
for the company’s competitor, Junkers. Even in international terms
the Herbitus facility was a pioneering achievement. Unsurprisingly,
the Allies used the low-pressure test rig to inspect their own and
expropriated German aero engines after the war. To begin with this
testing was carried out at the BMW plant in Munich. Then in 1946
the entire test facility was dismantled and shipped to the USA.’
http://www.bmwclub.ca/IC/MT/mtl0207_01_64.pdf
Martin