For those of you less familiar with powerless aircraft (other probably already know about it): the excellent Deutsches Segelflugmuseum mit Modellflug on the famous Wasserkuppe (Germany) is an excellent museum to visit.
The museum has recently been collecting a couple of ‘new’ gliders for its collection, including a tired (but rare) Siebert Sie.3 which I helped them load this morning for its trip east to the museum, where it has found a new home.
http://www.segelflugmuseum.de gives an impression of their excellent workmanship on restorations, and an overview on the collection. Visiting is a must if you’re in the area.
By: Pulsar-xp - 25th June 2017 at 10:04
Thank you very much for your answer. I wasn´t shure because I sometimes see gliders from NL with and without the deflectors.
By: ericmunk - 24th June 2017 at 18:17
Are the “wire deflectors” in the canopy still mandatory in the Netherlands?
Wellspotted! No they are not anymore, ever since transitioning to EASA in 2009. Around a third of the gliders still carry them and some owners still fit them to new gliders. They saved a number of lives over the years. However, fields have become bigger since the 1950s due to developments in agriculture, and the sleeker lines of modern gliders mean that any fencing wire is more likely to go over the canopy than through it.
By: Pulsar-xp - 24th June 2017 at 18:02
Are the “wire deflectors” in the canopy still mandatory in the Netherlands?
By: bazv - 24th June 2017 at 15:06
That is looking gorgeous Eric 🙂
Sunglasses required in direct sunlight 🙂
By: ericmunk - 24th June 2017 at 14:07
Its official: it has been completed and is now on display. Very good home for a rare glider!
By: ericmunk - 11th November 2016 at 08:49
The museum has started restoration recently. Great to see it in the workshop and on its way to recovery. Knowing the workshop staff, I am sure they will have fixed in no-time!
By: ericmunk - 4th March 2014 at 20:41
Then again, it took a tractor for the trailer to move at all on its almost seized wheel bearings… It was transferred to another trailer for its ride to its new home!
By: bazv - 4th March 2014 at 20:28
Be a long trip with that tractor Eric : )
By: ericmunk - 4th March 2014 at 19:58
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A quick pic of the Sie.3 about to leave for the Wasserkuppe last Friday.
By: bazv - 1st March 2014 at 07:01
Siebert’s Ka6s are indeed very nice. Unfortunately, performance of the Sie.3 was only marginally better than the superb Ka6E – even debatable. Yet it handles a lot worse than its direct competitor. It was not incredibly stable in pitch, and would wander off on its own when you released the stick. Great fun if you like roller coasters, but very unhandy when you need to look at a map, or have a pee. Build quality was great, but the type came about at a time when wooden gliders were already a thing of the past..
All very true Eric,the libelle certainly had nice crisp handling…
Here is an old pic of a visiting Jaskolka (also at Old Sarum 88/89)
Another very pretty glider with ‘fighter type’ canopy and nav lights all round ; )
By: ericmunk - 28th February 2014 at 19:38
Even prettier than my Libelle 201b !
It’s a tie I would say. I have a 201b coming in for its import inspection in some weeks. Wouldn’t want to upset the proud new owner!
By: ericmunk - 28th February 2014 at 19:35
Siebert’s Ka6s are indeed very nice. Unfortunately, performance of the Sie.3 was only marginally better than the superb Ka6E – even debatable. Yet it handles a lot worse than its direct competitor. It was not incredibly stable in pitch, and would wander off on its own when you released the stick. Great fun if you like roller coasters, but very unhandy when you need to look at a map, or have a pee. Build quality was great, but the type came about at a time when wooden gliders were already a thing of the past. The one that went to museum was built at a time when Astirs, Cirruses, Libelles and ASW15s had been running the show for some years. Only 27 were built in the end, many of them in kit form. The one Sie.3 I owned (very briefly, just to ensure its future, after it had sat the better part of 12 years outside under a tarp) was the last one built, in 1974 just before the Siebert workshop closed its doors. Today Siebert is still very much involved in aviation, as a supplier of aviation materials (only) in Münster. It’s great to see this Sie3 has found a new home. They are becoming exceedingly rare these days.
By: bazv - 28th February 2014 at 18:53
Now the Sie 3 is a really pretty glider…I took this pic at Old Sarum circa 1988/89 – quite a few of us were jealous !! : )
Even prettier than my Libelle 201b !
By: redvanner - 28th February 2014 at 13:41
Though I have not flown a Sie 3, I have seen one at the Siebert workshop. It was said, they took the Ka 6 as a kind of template to build an improved glider. In fact Siebert license built Schleicher types. Our club still has a Siebert built Ka 6 CR of 1966, actively flown throughout the years. Quality of this one is excellent, even better than some Schleicher ones. Especially harmonisation of all axes is superb, aileron, rudder and elevator perfectly in unison. Though a far cry from the newer designs in respect to glide angle and speed, this is the plane I liked to fly best, and most.
Michael
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